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gilderoy lockhart 2nd Oct 2008 11:30

How can all the experienced Aviation Professionals that have left Ayla in it's first 18 months after disagreements with the CEO, be wrong? There has been at least 3 CGI's, 2 CFI's, 2 Maintenance managers, HOT, Quality Manager, numerous ground and flight Instructors and as many support staff!

devil_pilot 2nd Oct 2008 11:54

:ugh:I Still Don't understand why GF and BDB did approv this Academy :ugh:

gilderoy lockhart 2nd Oct 2008 12:21

Devil Pilot,

Most of the approval work was done by the AFT appointee's and the previous CEO, who was returned to AFT, a lot of work was also done by the 2 resignee's mentioned on this thread! The awarding and subsequent success of the Gulf Bridge training programme from Qatar Aeronautical College to Ayla, with much help from Dave B, helped pave the way.

devil_pilot 2nd Oct 2008 12:25

gilderoy lockhart,

Important things u mentionned and im thankful for that :ok:

You must have good knowledge and infos on what is going on

It's not even about the Ayla it's about the whole region, politics, and corruption in Jordan

They are simply Bull**** , CARC is a complete jokk with no structure

They just mix everything and they don't even what they are doing

.Aero 4th Oct 2008 10:55

CARC
 

They are simply Bull**** , CARC is a complete jokk with no structure
This is key area wannabees should take into consideration when short listing potential FTOs. Training organizations will tend to produce pilots of a much higher calibre when the FTO in question is required (by statutory law) to comply with stringent regulation, and such regulation is applied and enforced by the authority! Naturally this raises the bar of safety, consistency in training, and standards all round. You will ultimately hold licences and ratings issued by the governing civil aviation authority and not the flight school itself - in the case of Ayla Aviation, the issuing state/body is Jordan's CARC.

bestpilotbestpilot 4th Oct 2008 19:51

work togetrher
 
guys,

we all have to work together to find a solution for our problem, Mr.Atalla as my freind said is sleeping and dreaming, he is playing with our future, WHAT SHALL WE DO??????:eek:

i personnally decided to leave but i don't know what to do or where to go? my PPL written exam wil be by the end of October, after that am not gonna stay a single second. :{

i think first thing, we have to talk to BDB and GF and tell them what's going on? do anybody know who is our contact person in GF and BDB?

devil_pilot 4th Oct 2008 20:18

BestPilot

Ur in ayla which class Fox ?

Regards

What you think would be the solutation

And i think BDB and GF are already aware or Mr Atallas flight school

Mr. Aviation 4th Oct 2008 23:21

dear best pilot,

i've heard frm some ppl that some cadets already contacted BDB & GF regarding this issues, as now BDB & GF aware of all of the problems at Ayla
dont worrey, they will find a solution..
take care my friend

A90A3192021 4th Oct 2008 23:38

All we need is a thorough audit from Gulf Air and some follow up from the Bank and I think this bullsh*t will cut down.. :sad:

bestpilotbestpilot 5th Oct 2008 16:44

thanks all,

but am really worried, what if GF and BDB came and audited ayla and captain marwan convensed them that this is aviation and because his main concern is safety as he always says, anybody asks him why is the delay why u promised people that they will graduate in 16 or 18 months he always says weather, safety and this is aviation, he will never ever say there is a shortage in flight instructors or there is a shortage in airplanes and he is still attracting people a ready to open new courses. am really worried guys because by the end of october after we finish the ppl exam, there will be class B, C, E and F at the flight line, with 7 airplanes and don't know how many instructors because every single day somebody tells us that one instructor resigned and they hired new one.... this academy will drive me crazy.:ugh:

devil_pilot 5th Oct 2008 19:30

And they talk of high standards ????!!!!!

They just hired 3 new fresh instructors !!! do u call this experienced ?

Anyway they are more busy preparing the Football game rather than thinking that ayla has only 7 airplanes for 100 students

"I would suggest them that course G should join next month " ahahahahah:8:8

Mr. Aviation 5th Oct 2008 20:33

looooooooooooooool
nice one pilitio...!!!!!!!!!

gilderoy lockhart 6th Oct 2008 03:53

Reading across from the Oxford Aviation and Gulf Air training academy thread, there seems to be discussions going on as to the future partner in MPL with Gulf Air. Ayla has been mentioned so perhaps another Audit from Gulf Air may be on the cards!

sic_ko 6th Oct 2008 23:09

Iam in course E, and they change my instructor 3 times, and I have 3 hourse.

.Aero 7th Oct 2008 10:45

Bahraini pilots upto no good?
 
This was on the front page of Bahrain's Arabic newspaper 'AlAyam' [opens as pdf]

Two Bahraini trainee pilots based at a flight school in Aqaba are being investigated by the Jordanian intelligence agencies for pouncing around 'sensitive' areas on the Israeli/Jordanian borders.

Bored cowboys?

http://i38.tinypic.com/kyckh.jpg

devil_pilot 7th Oct 2008 13:12

Don't Know where this pic was taken from :ugh:

Ayla owns C172 , it's not Aylas color , registration in US and certainly not aqaba !

WTH !!!!!:*

goneeast 7th Oct 2008 13:44

Where the photo is from, and the fact that it is not an Ayla aircraft has zero relevence. Journalists won't travel xxx miles to get a photo when one of similar type can be found from archive. The average reader knows nothing, it is the (alleged) investigation that is of concern.

But shouldnt be a problem soon, with no instructors, no one will get airborne !!

goneeast 7th Oct 2008 13:47

Further to previous post,

Im sure intellegence services don't "leak" the investigations that they are carrying out to foriegn newspapers.

gilderoy lockhart 7th Oct 2008 13:47

Suspect it was a generic photo used to illustrate the article! The proximity of Aqaba airport to Eilat in Israel was always a concern, may well have been accidental!

P.S anyone care to translate the article?

.Aero 7th Oct 2008 14:16

Photograph
 

Ayla owns C172 , it's not Aylas color , registration in US and certainly not aqaba
Do you readily disregard everything you read in your ATPL manuals as they contain depictions of large transport aircraft?


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