Errrr... excuse me??!! You might care to rephrase that. One thing the RAF did teach it's "Managers" (amongst many others) was a good sense of discipline and corporate culture, qualities that often seem wanting in the civilian environment. I don't want to start an anti-Air Force diatribe (as I am obviously speaking to the unconverted), but please don't generalise! Yes, an airline cannot be run as a military establishment, but the basic principals still remain if the objective is to be achieved -(job satisfaction for all in difficult times for everyone, employer and employee alike).

p.s No,I'm not in Management!

Generalisation
 

Yep it maybe, but sadly true in this case. :rolleyes:

Generalisation, unfortunately, is at its place here!

Give me one good example of an Ex-RAF pilot who realy has been succesfull in aviation as a manager outside the UK!

Many have tried, most have failed!

What is it with the Brits that they have to think they invented aviation ????

I will generalise even more: The backstabbing/lying/cheating/reporting we have become so used to from our Indian brethren we deal with here on a daily bases ( and what we condemn so heavily) MUST be a direct result of the years of colonisation they suffered from under the Brits! We have the result here!

I am very sorry, but for me a British run airline is the worst place to be in as a pilot!

Yes it's true.!
Strange none of us has been advised officialy about this change(ACN..)!?!

well now.. I have heard the same rumors, but, when I checked my last pay slip. I did get pay for it.

so maybe it's a evil rumor, or I just got lucky ( unlucky ) and will have to pay it back in the future as QA is already famous for, or hopefully I was just over looked.. better yet, it has not been taken away at all.. I won't know until my next pay slip, as I have 2 more days off out of base again this month.:mad:

poisoned by compromise
Krunch

british run airline
 

A British run airline that has seniority, pass over pay, paid duty hours,stable rostering etc which has given me 30 years of employment compared to what you are spouting on about Colsterbag I know where I would rather be.
Your Brit bashing is offensive what British airline did you work for? and perhaps you could confirm your nationality.

And who cares exactly?
 

I dont think many people care about what you have to say MATE!

So go to the EK or CX treads, the ideal refugee camps for Brits wanting to colonise the rest of the poor poor world! Or stay in your so called ideal airline back home. ( I always wondered, if the UK is such an ideal place to work and fly, how come so many brits are flying in the middle and far east? Or are you one of those ex-BA guys, touching a huge pension after which you decided to come overhere and make a quick sterling fast, in the meanwhile showing us poor bastard pilots how to run/fly a jet?)

I am getting so sick of Brits ruining everything in aviation, all over the world! Honestly....do us ALL a favor and stay away...:ugh::ugh::ugh:

Enough damage was done here allready by two of your countrymen!



By the way....I am glad you think my post was offensive! The truth hurts, doesnt it?

Halal Or .....stealing?
 

If one takes any thing money or material, without the knowledge
of the opposite party can be considered stealing.

The same token if you dont pay the agreed salary... outstation off ...
or anything related.

Good luck to u all.....:suspect:

Like most Pilots at QR, Closterman has never or will never work for a real airline. He's not good enough. A mentality as poor as the third world sh*thole he crawled out of.:yuk:

and who cares anyway
 

Closterbag old boy you need to take a chill pill.

Your rantings are pathetic I suspect you have not worked for a British airline, perhaps you were declined by them due to your suitability hence your views on us Brits.:ok:

Good morning Mr Clostermann,
I appreciate your last posting and I agree enough said. I have friends flying in QR (non british) who have voiced the same concerns you raise. It was the ''PAINTING US ALL WITH THE SAME BRUSH" that pi#$ed me off.
Good luck

Point taken and glad its settled:ok:

Sometimes even the more balanced under us get carried away by emotions and a good glass of Macallan I guess.

Good luck

-22 captains for the 320 fleet as you mentioned P.closterm in a previous post... this a more realistic explanation to understand why CPT320 have such a sh.. roster now, instead of blaming the new system.
But still how do we end up in such a situation..?..Day by day planning without any long term vision as usual here..?I guess ,,nothing new!
Is our CP 320 doing something..?:}
And the solution is....?More ASR...?Waiting for more pilots to resign?:ugh:waiting for an accident to do something...?:ugh:

I agree that there is a HUGE difference in Workload depending on the fleet you are: 320 is the worst for sure.Totally unfair!
And the solution is...?Dual rating 320-330..?

The solution should be pay by duty hours

Mr Pierre Clostermann
 

:DYou are absolutelly right with your previous post.
We all know what type of people those Brits are. This is a real sample of what pirates means.
Let them back to LOND-ISTAN, ASAP. To the one who refers as pilots from the third world.
Oh I am sorry I belong to a third world country,that what you might say, but my cuestion is, what are you doing here, go back to your foggy and humid hole:mad:.
With all respect.
Mr Banana

Day off out base is back?