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Lulu qatar 13th Aug 2008 19:11

Qatar Airways rostering department N1 reason for resignations
 
Why all A320 guyz leaving QA and as main reason thay put A320 roster +salary ?
Plz explain am on A330 and we have no problems 4 days off or to get requested flight is not a big deal on A330 .

Ronaldo 330 13th Aug 2008 19:24

A320
 
Lulu dont forget you are on A330 means roster is out on time and you are alowed to request off days or flight while A320 guyz get roster with salary and not alowed to request anything except WOFF.
And A330 fly nice destionations with ILS and radar vectors in 90% while A320 fly to Sanna,Kathmandu,Alexandria,Mashad,Seychelles,Damascus,south India...all intresting destinations for training but i prefere doing FRA,LHR,KIX,IAD,CDG flat terrain and radar vectors .
A320 roster has been ok before long time back but last 3 y its just a joke and make airline lost over 30% of fleet captians becouse of it .
Lets see a new system !

CEO PITA 13th Aug 2008 19:33

roster
 
Its not an rostering department its an "mad house" in there .

P.Clostermann 13th Aug 2008 21:07

and it is not getting better.

CS told us today that they had a meeting with the new cabin svcs manager and the new rostering system was explained to them.

They want to go to the old GF system whereby you will be gone for 5 days flying around the area, only using DOH as a transit port.

So DOH-KWI-DOH-AMM (layover)-DOH-DXB-DOH-BAH(layover)DOH-BEY-DOH-DXB (layover)-DOH-MCT-DOH-AUH(layover)-DOH.... could soon be reality for the 320 guys.

Widebody fleets can expect more short flights after a long sector etc...

CS where briefed and asked about their opinion...So far we havent heard a thing but this system is supposed to be implimented in september..

In my opinion a bomb will explode if they do that!

Another ill-thought over decision by managment! Add it to our still-not-confirmed annual leave tickets !

kotakota 13th Aug 2008 21:34

Completely ignorant how yr allowance / hotel system works in QR , but we used to do this sort of pattern in BA shorthaul out of Gatwick ( and LHR to a certain extent ). Looks like very short sectors to me , so either you will use ****e hotels , or yr allowances will not make it worthwhile ?
We used to love this sort of work , but then again we were staying in great hotels in great cities around Europe. It actually gives you more time at home sometimes but can be bad for family life if you are at least home most nights even if it is 2 in the morning ? Is this the case with you guys ?

Two Dogs.... 13th Aug 2008 23:24

Hey Pierre, multi-day trips may actually improve quality of life for A320 crew if they get rid of all the pointless night duties around the Gulf. AUH, BAH, DXB and KWI all through the night duty for less than two hours pay? It's bullsh1t exploitation, no good reason for it and all crew hate it. Management know this too, they have been presented with alternative patterns more than once:ugh:. Management dont have the will to change anything because they dont do any of the crap duties themselves. I guess you have to expect a crap airline to have worthless management.

P.Clostermann 14th Aug 2008 10:13

This could improve lifestyle on the A320 if these patterns would be guaranteed followed by days off.

This is apparently not the case. STD 7 days off /month will be the rule

QR hotels usually have been of good standards so that should not be a worry.

Thing is that most pilots come to the Gulf bringing their families, looking for some sort of a lifestyle. A lifestyle at home.

If now 5 days away becomes the standard, there goes the lifestyle and most probably there goes the wife and kids as well! Not worth it!

On long haul it will not affect us that much however, so once more, the babybus drivers are screwed! It is time our beloved leaders start seeing this!

Unfortunately A320 CPs have not got the balls to change anything! The poor guys can not even request a flight on A320.

CEO PITA 14th Aug 2008 13:42

maslama
 
Masalama Q.A and all of you enjoj new rostering system which will save airline cost and WILL NOT improve youre life stile or salary .
I left DOH receantly for good and got a job with airline in far east with good benifits and commuting contract .
One more thing before i leave i have to tell you my friends that QA use to have good hotels but i been talking to one mananger in QA tower before i leaft and he told me due to cutting costs QA starts to take cheaper hotels for crew with less free options when in.
Thnx for support and i enjoj some times in QA doing all its forbiden .

Lulu qatar 14th Aug 2008 13:57

Ceo Pita
 
BYE BYE CEO PITA WE WILL MISS YOURE FUNNY POSTS ON QR

If QR change hotels its going to be another EVAC from QR .

Anyone done CMB flight and stay in that Tamarin Tree or Taj hotel ? Its like jail but a bad one .

loc22550 14th Aug 2008 14:40

Let's just hope in the interest of the company that they will think twice before releasing any new roster system....
Maybe CEO PITA did the right move at the right time...

Terri Wrist 15th Aug 2008 04:44

Congratulations CEO Pita, we will all miss you, specially the Chief of Katamites ;)

skya320 17th Aug 2008 13:29

CMB most of the time we stay at Cinnamon Grand Hotel

Lulu qatar 17th Aug 2008 15:29

CMB
 
Yea but some crew i know stay in Tamarin or Taj which is BAD !

I guess hotels will become 3 star or so due to cost cut program .

Roster system is new and we will see how bad or good it is but till now a new CRM (crew rostering manager) did do anything to improve it he is just there instead of C.C who was more busy searching boys then doing roster lets see what Australian guy up to .

Two Dogs.... 18th Aug 2008 06:47

Hey the airport Taj was a great place to watch the Tiger Airforce bomb the crap out of the airport. Sri Lankan AAA with a cold beer was always something to look forward to. I guess someday that war had to end.... :uhoh:

skya320 18th Aug 2008 07:12

Sometime I just wish that we have a union here. (I know that it's impossible...but it would be nice if we have one to deal with this kind of management, roster:ugh: and many more)

Terri Wrist 18th Aug 2008 09:58

Union very good idea skya320. But is man in jail now warming seat in solitary just for you :eek:

loc22550 18th Aug 2008 13:52

Union would have save a lot of money to the company; by taking into consideration the problem of the crew....this would have prevent a huge number of resignation since the creation of the company.!
But as we all known here the politic is :take it or leave it!

Lulu qatar 19th Aug 2008 01:12

Union
 
Union not alowed .
orange juce not alowed
dates not alowed
BMW not alowed
sick leave not alowed more then 14 days

Alowed :
UK management with A320 experiance in 6 aircrafts airline
warning letters
declearing mayday due to fuel status
parking in wakra and walking to tech building
if you decleare pan pan for fuel you become Inst becouse you save fuel
hard landings with S/O A330
back to back roester made in AUS
any more ideas ?

qatari001 19th Aug 2008 01:59

Hey Lulu qatar, are you sure you re not the same person as CEO-PITA??
Because I think you re always saying the same crap with the same spelling mistakes!
And we re just fed up to read the same thing!
What do you think guys?

If you really resigned from QR, then you should help us to join you in your new airline :rolleyes: many QR FO's looking for quick command upgrade? any tips? :confused:

JungleJett 19th Aug 2008 03:54

Yeah I think he's the same loser....or his evil twin....
After a year of reading the same crap and NOTHING new it becomes a pain.
For the last time PETA/Lulu, because is spelled B-E-C-A-U-S-E and NOT BECOUSE.....


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