Agree with Qatari 515. After I left I needed to provide extra records to my new employer. There was no problem getting them from QR. They also give me a standard leaving letter with dates of employment and wished me well.

Same for me as well. I got all my records authenticated in full details. That wasn't a problem at all, indeed thanks a lot to the secretary for that hustle. However one thing is true we're not allowed to access personal file in HR. Whatever the reason might be. There's a verbal instruction. Another thing beyond any imagination is the procedure of signing the legal clearance. Dear Sirs, just to let you know, you are committing a criminal offence 'extortion' by depriving a person of personal property like Passport and freedom to move with it. Making someone sign a form under duress, threatening not hand out the passports and the paycheck makes the document being void and the accountable manager is personally liable for that. vicarious liability must ring a bell for sure. Won't be that easy to sack higher ranking HR folks. One thing is for sure in the civilized world no one of the accountable managers would last even a day.
Don't take it personally take it on the rocks!!!:ok:

QR
 

I see you guyz which left QR you where so happy that you decided to resign and leave QR ? ha ha
Official you are not alowed to have SIm check report but if you have friend in office it works .
Qatari Licence is taken from you when you resign becous eyou could use it to get a job . I was thinking that licence is mine but i guess i was wrong . Becouse ACN say thet renewal of licence is pilot resposibillity but when you resign they take damn licece from you .

Nothanotherhilton when you married did she need a cleareance from CEO to get married for you ? Could you bring her as wife on sponsorhip visa ? becouse we all know few Capt and F/Os had to resigen or beeing terminated becouse that basic human rights where not granted .

restrictions
 

Its NOT alowed to carry EXTRA fuel but its alowed to land below legal minimum fuel in Doha .
Its not alowed to add speed on Vapp becouse its deangorous but its alowed to have hard landings .
2nd officiers can start on A330 and take place of those experianced on A320 and 300

It was not a case with previous C Tech . H.B . He was strict but he knew what is he talking about unlike new one which let people get along with declearnig PAN PAN for fuel in USA and M.E and doing hard landings as long as its save money .

QTR515,

Truth? All events I listed actually occurred at The Goat under the reign of the current chief, a few occurred before your arrival. Ask around. For item 10 to which you refer I have in my resume the nasty letter on company letterhead signed by the then A320 Chief Pilot Training.

Here is another one I remember:

14. Even if the catamite says during a welcome speech "if you ever have a problem, the door to my office is always open", do not enter to make a complaint. A new FA saw his door open and walked straight in to complain about accommodation. She was fired that day. She miss-understood the invitation. What he meant was, if you have information about wrong-doing staff, my door is always open to hear your story.

And of course....

15. Staff not allowed to ridicule the company on any media forum, including this website. Many threads have been withdrawn/gagged after threatened legal action.

I am not frustrated 515, but now free to kick that ugly airline in the nuts as hard as I like. Truthful free speech is a powerful tool and fun pastime.

Cheers.....

qr restrictions
 

hi guys, what about taking back the qatari license if you resign from qr. I heard even that qcaa would cancel it.:sad:

Blackstain...I worked in Qatar Airways when incident number 2 you quote occured. I know the Captain involved (NA), I know what happened. What you've written is complete BS.

CEO Pita....We left before we got married, it was never our intention to stay. We always wanted to raise our kids around their extended families nearer to home, I pay 41% of everything I earn for the privelege and put back a command for the next 10 years but hey somethings in life are more important than money and status. Perhaps people should prioritise what they want out of life before moving to a different part of the world.

Well, I have been here a mighty long time, unfortunately one might say, so I doubt it if these things would have happened before I was here!

I dont know how the CP A320 does his job. Most of the guys I know who resigned from the A330 where treated with respect and dignity by the CP's. Very professional. The **** only started hitting the fan when you have to start the bloody release process which is, as once more pointed out correctly by N21, totally illegal and against any law.

Remember: They will try to make you hand over your license in the office. DO NOT DO THIS. Ask the QCAA and they will officially deny that this is being done on their demand. They will cancel your license as soon as the date of your last LPC expires but hopefully by then you should have used this license to have started flying somewhere else!

Another thing which lots of people do: Loose your license and company ID card right before you resign, get new ones and then resign! works every time!

Regarding the BIG MAN himself. I have personally witnessed him helping out several colleagues of ours after they MADE AN APPOINTMENT and went to talk to him. I dont agree on his way of doing things most of the time but this is one thing you have to hand the guy. So what, he enjoys us begging for his help, which is despicable, but at least he does something afterwards!

In any airline around the world my friend, it is written that no employee can make any statements about the company, in no matter what way. This includes forums like this one. The only time they can come after you is when you mention someone's name in person.
So dont do this!
I have over 250 posts on this forum, many of them of a sensitive nature. Ones I got a memo from the Mod's saying that I had to remove a name from a post. I did that, never heard anything since.

So yes, they are monitoring these threads because these forums can and will do a lot of damage to the airline and for sure the powers do not like it. WATODOO!

:suspect:

ONCE AGAIN LICENSE IS YOURS It's your property unless revoked by authorities Company has got no legal rights to retain it. I kept mine anyways. QCAA license is worthless cause issued based on the foreign one thus no authority will ever accept it for validation or other purposes. That's why there's a remark about how it's issued.
RECORDS ARE YOUR PROPERTY AND MUST BE FULLY ACCESSIBLE AT ANY TIME THAT INCLUDES HR FILES. All very clearly written in QCAR OPS1
Claim what's your and you shall get it.
Don't take it personally take it on the rocks!!!:ok:

I still have my QCAA licence. It was worthless when I left for the very reasons Smirnoff N21 stated.

I remember #2, British instructor, local student, "if you dont change your attitude you can go upstairs and av a chat to the guy dressed like you". The student did go upstairs and said so and so says I wear a dress like you. Or words close to that effect.

Notanotherhilton, how can you know the guy involved in an event that didnt happen?

I helped the guy who I was friendly with at the time and his wife with their hasty exit. I know what was said in the classroom, I know what was said in his meeting with the CEO.

My time at QR was spent flying to interesting destinations, on nice equipment with mostly great people from all over the world. It had its bad days, mostly listening to $10000+ a month people whinging about caps, nuts and orange juice. The colleagues I had, who were positive and got on with it and are still at QR are mostly Captains now, some of them in training.

The Arabs in my experiance were usually wary of Westerners but I discovered it was a defensive thing. When I offered them my friendship and respect it was returned 99% of the time. In fact 2 Qatari's drove me around Doha on their own time and expense to help me find accomodation when I first arrived, I keep in touch with them to this day.

If you go there with the attitude that company housing is only fit for Indians, Asians and South Americans etc..well, it will be over for you before its even begun....but you what you'll miss out on some wonderful adventures ;)

Anyway I'm off for a round of Golf now...enough of the depression network for today....

C.P why don't you air the real rumor? What about the new rule 5 years in the company till eligible for command? Someone was asking for course of actions. Here is at least one:
drop at the labour department at the C ring road and let them authentificate your piece of paper whatever it might be. Contract or offer of employment. Hukoomi - Certificates and Contracts Authentication

Don't take it personally take it on the rocks!!!:ok:

Bless you, guys. No orange juice or dates! Life is surely hard. Drink water instead as most of the pilots at BA do!

Well well,


The Nigels are throwing their cheeseboards again at us, poor fellas in the sandpit!

I just hope your remark was meant to be sceptical, and not just plain pathetical!

Orange juice for flight deck crew
 

As per a new memo,O J is uplifted in a bottle stamped Flight deck on it.this is never offered by the crew as they think of it as favor by giving u O J!!To my surprise it was discovered by chance on a morning flight.On certain flights they uplift energizer for flight deck!!amen!!love the change of heart!!

nothanorehilton
 

Yea right so naw you are in EU if QR was so nice you would stay for god .
Dont give me that ( i left for kids ) Doha is more safe then EU ...
And yea i agree with you Arabs are cool nice and frendly the only problem is that "litle small man " is not Arabic he is from Hayderabad mate .

So yes it's true then Notanotherhilton, yes, no, yes, finally you make up your mind. I remember the guy lost a lot of money selling his car in a rush. An old story, but a big story. There has never been any job security at Goat Airways, staff have been sacked, or given warning letters for the most trivial issues that in the normal world would be corrected by just asking please dont do that again.

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How many airlines actually have a written Warning Letter Policy anyway?? What is it, 3 Warning Letters bye bye. Five Caution Letters = One Warning Letter. Each Letter valid 6 months. Lucky accountants are cheap enough in Doha to keep track of who is coming up for termination.

Funny that my 3 buddies who have upto 6 years service at QR and all got commands in the last 2 years didnt have problems with warning letters or terminations, all Europeans with options, all happy where they are. When I left my fleet chief sat me down and wanted to know my reasons for leaving and wished me well.

CEO, you sound like a lovely guy, TELLING me where I should raise my family.

Two Dogs, perhaps you should read my post again instead of putting words in my mouth.

Hell hath no fury like a Pilot with an axe to grind I suppose.

QTR515 and Notanotherhilton have accused lies. Several of the 13 events I recalled above were personal experience, some were told to me directly by the individuals involved, only 3 from third parties. To my knowlege all are true.

On OPC/LPC records issue there is no argument. Attaching the file here is not possible, PM for a copy, or 515 can have his secretary did out Goat Memorandum KC/08/05 KMC on 09AUG05 from Deputy Chief Pilot Training A320.

Goat policy is as inconsistant as it is irrational. Next time you make copies of your LPC/OPC, or take a day sick leave before days off, or try to get your wife a jumpseat out of HYD etc, etc.... remember the others that have gone before and done the headbutting for you.

Dont value history? Why dig up old problems now resolved?

Point: Tomorrow, next month, next year, you will see more of the same idiotic rules endorsed by the same management. And for some poor buggers it will cause great irritation, frustration and possibly financial pain. Yes there are plenty of pilots with an axe to grind, and I still have plenty of stories to tell.

As for no knowlege of any events I can only assume that QTR515 spends too much time in the office to hear of them.