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Thought i would join in :8
Annouced today: Gulf Air, Bahrain’s national airline, today announced the launch of a major project which will see the redesign of all its aircraft interiors, together with its livery, uniforms and its passenger lounges. The airline has appointed London and Singapore based designers James Park Associates to carry out all aspects of the redesign, which will coincide with an expansion and updating of Gulf Air’s fleet. “Customer satisfaction is one of our top priorities and while we are proud of the very high standards of service and hospitality that we offer, we are constantly seeking ways to further enhance our passengers’ experience with Gulf Air as part of our aim to be the airline of choice,” says Gulf Air chief executive officer Bjorn Naf. “With the help of James Park Associates, we will redesign every aspect of the passenger experience to blend traditional comfort with cutting-edge technology and materials to give our customers an unforgettable journey with Gulf Air,” said Naf. Designer James Park said his company was excited to work on enhancing Gulf Air’s already strong brand image. “This is an incredibly exciting project and one which will see further enhancement to Gulf Air’s image as a world class airline. The civil aviation world is evolving at an incredible speed and the challenge for all airlines and their designers is not meeting passengers’ expectations, but exceeding them. Gulf Air will achieve that and more,” said Park. James Park Associates was founded in 1982, specialising in the design of bespoke interiors and luxury environments. With offices in London and Singapore, JPA's work focuses largely on the travel and hospitality industries. JPA has designed Singapore Airlines' new business class seat on the Airbus A380 aircraft and the first and business class seats on board their Boeing 777-300ER fleet. Other projects include the Venice-Simplon Orient Express; the Eastern and Oriental Express; the Royal Scotsman; Taj Exotica Resort and Spa in Mauritius and the Maldives; Lake Palace Hotel in Udaipur, India; Hotel Pierre, New York. Acting executive vice president marketing and sales Danny Barranger hailed the tie-up with the international design consultancy as the “ideal partnership for a strong, successful and lasting brand.” “Gulf Air has a long history of being the pioneer of aviation in the region and we have immense pride in our heritage and we will continue to a pioneering leader in the future. We are committed to development and improvement of our products and services to ensure that Gulf Air is well positioned to become the airline of choice,” said Barranger. “This will include significant changes to the in-flight entertainment systems,” he concluded. – TradeArabia News Service I am going to miss the old livery! |
I am cabin crew not a pilot and apologise for crashing your party, occasionally I like to see what the big boys are talking about. What I am reading from the gentlemen who stand in briefings and have the nerve to talk about the value of CRM is disgraceful. I hope that no other crew read this childish and openly racist outpouring from the people who are in command of us. Fortunately I have no idea of your identities because if I did I would surely not wish to fly with you or your attitudes.
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Thank you sandfox!
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Re: Post's missing
How come my last post has been removed???? I did not swear like some of the other posts here, I just gave a honest opinion of Fatal Gulfy like everybody else. It was very tame tame compared to other posts. Is the censorship issue raising its ugly head again?????
What's going on mister moderator ?????????:ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::mad::mad::*:*:* |
The term "Paki" is offensive to Pakistanis, and should be avoided, and any likening of Fatal to a Pakistani is also offensive to our Pakistani brethern here..
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Thank you IB57 - undersiege hop off the soapbox & wind your neck in - your post was part of a string that had no effect other than to whip up a storm of controversy - it had no value in terms of aviation or what Mr. Kooheji had to say. Leave it at that or it is you who will be doing the leaving.
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LMFAO@IB. too true.
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I still personally do not think it should have been removed as I have been brought up in a part of the would that has freedom of speech, like the U.K for example.
But on this arena you are God and can strike anyone down with a few simple keystrokes Leave it at that or it is you who will be doing the leaving. After 6 years in this region I should know by that there is no freedom of speech. I just did not think that it would extend to a website logged into from the M.E. but is based in the U.K. Sorry for the offence caused to our Pakistani brethren out there. |
Not convinced you understand the concept of "freedom of speech" just go into your workplace anywhere in the civilized world and throw around a few racial slurs, or direct some vulgarities at your supervisor and see what happens...now back to the thread...
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Fatal is a shame for gulf air
Dear IronButt,
Obviously that capt fatal is jealous of your new position. He is a real shame for this airline and I won't be surprised to learn that he cheated his way to a flightdeck. I don't know you very well but I always heard that you had very good standard and attitude. So i won't go into the local / expat war, but it is obvious that expats (omanis, canadians or others...) are not welcome anymore in gulf air and especially from this 'Captain Fataly Stupid'. Failing 330/340 Expat FOs is becoming a common game. He will be the new GF072, because he knows better and will show you better... he is a CRM bomb ready to explode in a flight deck. IB they might want you out. Don't you worry the world is looking for guys like you. That fatal guy can't be anything besides of being a little nobody in Gulf Air. Obvisouly his ego must be in an inverse relation to his IQ... I am with you. Enjoy the boat and the beers, Cheers, BD |
:{:{what a bunch of kids,gf boys needs to grow up
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Guys, stop deriding your mates for no rhyme or reason.
Fatal, you may have an opinion - we all do, but could you be man enough to discuss it with IB, your current target? You know who he is, and be the real warrior and confront him. This would save us and the website a lot of trash, and reputation. As far as the Training department goes, I do not see where they have erred on the A320. It is the A330/340 that has tons of deadwood that needs to be weeded out ASAP - the crap survives because of cheek-kissing the former and the future training manager. That fleet is lucky that they have little responsibility for putting inexperienced bums on the seats, and the dirty work is left to the A320 and the B767. Targetting the A320, while turning a blind eye to the A330/340 is more than unfair. |
The term Paki which seems to offend everyone is actually used on the front page of all major newspapers where I come from. Forget about the supervisor at work, he reads the same newspapers as every other employee does. So I will have no problem using the term at work at all. Not even the Paki reading the newspaper will complain, he's has is own terms that he uses for other nationalities himself. Still no one complains
NOW THATS FREEDOM OF SPEECH.:ok: |
I am going to miss the old livery! I certainly hope that change will not be just for the sake of change itself (or even worse, to distance GF from the Hogan identiry). As far as aircraft interior redesign changes, yes, and keep it coming! Also, I hope that it will not be a change intended to address the needs of the airline (and the perceived needs of the customer) for the next 10 years. The implementation of standardized cabins has taken entirely too long at Gulf Air. When you look at service leading airlines such as Singapore Airlines, service product lifespan is sometimes measured in terms of months, not years, in order to differentiate itself from the competition and to keep it's most demanding passengers (I mean the ones who pay premium dollar, not just the ones who yell and scream for lack of culture) delighted. |
Wonder ifhe livery will actually change seeing as how they just are finishing up the last couple aircraft with new paint...
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:rolleyes:I remember how all that gold in the livery was going to make GF seem like a "premium" airline:rolleyes:
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GF service, if I may say so, is pretty good by world airline standards, but not perfect. The service standards in the region amongst the competition are pretty high also, but anybody who has flown a North American or European airline may well agree with me on this.
Concern here is about throwing out the baby with the bathwater. Brand identity is important, to be certain, however, I feel the money and effort (focus) should be better tuned towards things like interiors, including new seats in First, Business and Economy Class (latest comfort and low-weight designs), pax entertainment systems (even Economy Class pax have now come to expect on-demand in-seat videos), an emphasis on maintenance to keeping in-cabin furnishings in top-notch condition, as well as maintaining a focus on training and uping personnel service standards (the quality provided by different crew members runs a wide spectrum) rather than new paint and new uniforms. |
GF service, if I may say so, is pretty good by world airline standards, but not perfect. The service standards in the region amongst the competition are pretty high also, but anybody who has flown a North American or European airline may well agree with me on this. It's the cabin interiors themselves that are the disgrace. Even with those planes with IFE, almost half of them continue to be inop. |
scrap ALL of them before they TOTALLY destroy gf's reputation.
NEW PLANES, NEW PLANES, NEW PLANES, NEW PLANES, NEW PLANES, NEW PLANES!!!!!!!!! throw out capt fatal gulfy while they're at it. |
The cc have and continue to do a fantastic job with what they have available. It's the cabin interiors themselves that are the disgrace. Even with those planes with IFE, almost half of them continue to be inop. |
LOCALS ......LOCALS.......MY COUNTRY MY AIRLINE ................:ouch::ouch::ouch::ouch:
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yo fatal dude are you really local pilot if so then I don't think I'd want you to be my training captain:E
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Capt (Ha Ha!) Fatal,
You obviously much enjoy throwing a spanner in the works and getting every one's knikers in a twist. I have my doubts you're even a local but frankly I don't give a toss what you are. One thing is for sure, you've done your utmost to prove what an outright Wan:mad:ker you are. Keep up the good work, I for one really enjoy your childish utterly useless rant which takes up bites in syberspace to no effect whatsoever other than to satisfy your week pathetic little ego. Cheers Fluffies |
Gulf Air is only for locals................my country, my airline....go go go.....and Mr R..........MYOB
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Is the use of the term "Paki" offensive?
Dear Ironbutt 57
In the UK, yes it would be for 2 generation. But for Pakistanis themselves, there is not offence and that is how they refer to themselves. Just like Yanks, Brits, Ozzies and Kiwis. |
All sorry to but in on your parade - I am thinking of applying to GF but one of my main concerns was that being a brit from Pakistani origin and GF having 50% local pilots is there any discrimination - (having travelled in the ME the indiginous arab population havnt always been the friendliest of people). Capt Fatal doesnt inspire any confidence to apply!
Your thoughts would be appreciated (especially from any pakistanis out there) Red PS. IBN Kalb - Afro Americans in the US refer to themselves using the "N" word (see many thousands of Rap songs) I'd like to see you go into any black neighbourhood in the US and use the same word - I promise you would be dead within 30 seconds!!! Just the same with pakistanis calling themselves whatever they like that doesnt give outsiders the right too!:= |
Dont think for one minuet that Fatal represents the sentiments of any majority here..we have several "hyphenated" Pakistanis here, meaning Pakistani-Canadian, Pakistani-British to name a couple..best of luck in your application..
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thanks Ironbut:ok:
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This topic is quite disgusting. The racism and arrogance(unjustified-read fatal) is very poor. When I get on a flight, GF or otherwise, it doesn't even cross my mind that there may be racial clashes brewing subliminally(personality sure-thats quite normal).
I just want the tech crew to get me there an back safely, which GF has done superbly over my past 10 yrs flying them. I'm not sure why the moderators do not ban cpt fatal..it is clear now 'its' contributions are not in the spirit of this forum. :confused: A humble pax who enjoys pprune immensley. Oddy:) |
Dear oh dear, just got back from leave to be greeted by all this curfuffle. As far as I'm concerned, GF is a bit of a gem in the region in terms of general conditions. I mean look at EY and all their issues in these forums. I still think we got it good, that is until the next poaching exercises by our nominated masters.
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ODMEA -- here, here, totally agree
Red Baron - well it all depends what word you use...if it is "niggah" then you are cool but if it is "nigger" then it is offensive. Very strangely enough, the rule only appllies of you are a black person. If you are white, whichhever word you say, you are rascist...so the anti-rascist policy is itself rascist! Anyway, some of my colleagues call me Cracker which I quite like ;-) |
excuse me Capt. Fatal but may I add one more thing before I leave you alone??
احترم نفسك يالثور sorry for that guys just had to let off some steam anyways does anyone know what new destinations are coming online (other than Shanghai)? And when will they upgrade current fleet before the 787s arrive?? Thanks |
espicially for you .....R
Hey Mr r..... s..:mad:.t ........ again MYOB.......... the arabic words you wrote, it really reflects from which environment you have been rasised in....maybe.............STY........ keep your distance
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GF A320 took off two days ago for Sanaa without takeoff clearance. Maybe Capt F? If it is such a local airline, why is it run by Bjorn Naf? Is he Bahraini?
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if u finding yr self man enough.....come on and face us, instead sticking behind the ass of foreigners.......shame on you ...is that patriotism......... |
Well put Mr. R. but I think our friend Capt_F is just a big s*** stirrer. I would be shocked if he really is who some people say he is & even if he is really a local.
Rumor has it that 777s might be an joining our fleet??? |
re:Terms and conditions
All,
In between the mud slinging, can I ask a few questions. I have read what PPjn says and that the package is supposedly overall better than EK & EY but are the allowances enough e.g does the housing allowance pay for a house/villa (as I have 3 kids) and is the education allowance per year enough for one years tuition fees? 2. DO Fo's actually save any money? 3. What is the time to command 4. What is an average FO's monthly salary many thanks Red PS - Capt Fatal feel free NOT to add your opinion:} |
LOOKING FORWARD............we will see who laughs at the end........ |
I have read what PPjn says and that the package is supposedly overall better than EK & EY but are the allowances enough e.g does the housing allowance pay for a house/villa (as I have 3 kids) and is the education allowance per year enough for one years tuition fees?
2. DO Fo's actually save any money? 3. What is the time to command 4. What is an average FO's monthly salary many thanks 1- Yes, the package is better in some points and the housing is not enough for a decent villa for your family. If you plan to stay for long time (5Y+) maybe it's better to buy one and education allowance is not enough as well. 2- With three kids, personally, I dont believe you can make any savings 3-Time to command... God knows, I guess 8 years from now 4-The average salary is 2800Bd (w/o housing and school allowances) Cheers! |
Rumor has it that 777s might be an joining our fleet??? |
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