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casablanca 28th Mar 2019 19:17


Originally Posted by SOPS (Post 10432403)


I would suggest you as an individual can go to as many roadshows/ interviews as you like. If you are worried about EK finding out you went to a Qatar intrerview, I would politely suggest you think about that.

exactly! ďIfĒ they monitor and try to influence you so much at this point it should be a warning sign....although I ď highly ď doubt that is the case

bananaman2 28th Mar 2019 20:08


Originally Posted by tony the jesus (Post 10432596)
I would like to have the same information.

very good for First Officers, good for Captís as well depending on who you speak too (you canít please everyone... some prefer good destinations, some days Off, some donít like Freighter, some want low hours, some high etc).

For FO (my job)... for many months now, roster has been between 45-65 for a full months flying (i.e no Leave), for a month with Leave, expect lower. Days Off have been good which is what interests me - can always get a block of 6... some very occasionally getting 2 blocks, with a total of between 9-14 days Off in the month. Some actually are complaining as they want higher flying time for more money. Itís not the best fleet for destinations but weíve got some decent ones at the moment e.g Bangkok, Kiev, Warsaw, Venice, Penang, KL (the less desirable ones being to China, India, Pakistan and Bangladesh - all subjective of course). We do Freighter... which can be hit and miss (Deadheading, delays etc) and provides more destinations. Most trips are generally layover - iím doing about 1 turnaround per month.

tony the jesus 28th Mar 2019 20:22

Bananaman2, Thank you for the information.

Dz_flyer 29th Mar 2019 22:58

Can someone share or pm a 777 roster please !

FLY BY WIRE 30th Mar 2019 19:21

Can anyone in the Know shed some light on how the recruitment is going at QR?
How many screenings do they hold each month? Are they busy at the moment working on a backlog of hold pool pilots?
Are they a bit snowed under with applicants at the moment, or are they concentrating on a particular fleet?

Any information would be helpful.

Many thanks,

FBW

MaverickPrime 30th Mar 2019 22:52


Originally Posted by Dz_flyer (Post 10433861)
Can someone share or pm a 777 roster please !

I copied the following from the pilot earnings thread in the T&Cs section of the forum;

For clarity, please post like this :
1) QR
2) RHS
3) 777
4) 3
5) Worked 230 days (of which 15 days off downroute), leave 42 days, off 94 days
6) All flights are with an overnight apart from line check
7) Block 1100 + 260 hours deadhead
8) NET approx 100.000,- for basic and flight pay
9) per diem depends on destination roughly 550,- to 750 euro a month, 3500,- housing + utilities
10) NET income 145.000,- euro per year
Quote

777 sounds a bit brutal to me!

Dz_flyer 30th Mar 2019 23:54


Originally Posted by MaverickPrime (Post 10434633)


I copied the following from the pilot earnings thread in the T&Cs section of the forum;

For clarity, please post like this :
1) QR
2) RHS
3) 777
4) 3
5) Worked 230 days (of which 15 days off downroute), leave 42 days, off 94 days
6) All flights are with an overnight apart from line check
7) Block 1100 + 260 hours deadhead
8) NET approx 100.000,- for basic and flight pay
9) per diem depends on destination roughly 550,- to 750 euro a month, 3500,- housing + utilities
10) NET income 145.000,- euro per year
Quote

777 sounds a bit brutal to me!

thank you
And yes it seems a bit brutal

Camelonglide 2nd Apr 2019 06:31


Originally Posted by A777Er (Post 10399933)


Hi
i can’t say about salary sorry about that I am not a captain .
fot education they pay phill age of 21 up to 4 kids
for retirement the only payout you get is end of service or ISP if you elect to join the plan


education in QR: do they pay for overseas schools/university or only in Doha?

777 Capt: possible to achieve 4/5 + 3/4 consecutive days off per month to commute to Europe without company limitations (24hrs before departure at base, ULR, etc ...)?

Thank you

A777Er 2nd Apr 2019 08:14


Originally Posted by Camelonglide (Post 10436320)
education in QR: do they pay for overseas schools/university or only in Doha?

777 Capt: possible to achieve 4/5 + 3/4 consecutive days off per month to commute to Europe without company limitations (24hrs before departure at base, ULR, etc ...)?

Thank you

education allowance can be availed worldwide for School and universities up to 21
regarding the days off well it can be achieved but not 100% every month it depends on how u Bid.
you can bid for up to 6 days off in a row , sometimes also you can plan to divide the 42 days annual leave on block of 6 days every other month .
Commuting is not easy but it can be done .
regarding company policy for rest you need to respect the 12 hr minimum rest ( they donít monitor it 100% )before duty and before any URL duty you need to be acclimatized to doh.
hope this answer your questions.

N4865G 2nd Apr 2019 08:30

They do now.
Some people got into big trouble (including disciplinary action) for breaking this rule.


Originally Posted by A777Er (Post 10436384)

you need to respect the 12 hr minimum rest ( they donít monitor it 100% )


airbourne 2nd Apr 2019 15:30

Asked a mate. Anywhere between 55-70 block hours a month.

Camelonglide 2nd Apr 2019 16:00


Originally Posted by A777Er (Post 10436384)


education allowance can be availed worldwide for School and universities up to 21
regarding the days off well it can be achieved but not 100% every month it depends on how u Bid.
you can bid for up to 6 days off in a row , sometimes also you can plan to divide the 42 days annual leave on block of 6 days every other month .
Commuting is not easy but it can be done .
regarding company policy for rest you need to respect the 12 hr minimum rest ( they donít monitor it 100% )before duty and before any URL duty you need to be acclimatized to doh.
hope this answer your questions.

Acclimatized = 2 hrs from DOH?
It will work from Europe then even in the winter time

Thank you for the reply

A777Er 2nd Apr 2019 16:33


Originally Posted by Camelonglide (Post 10436806)
Acclimatized = 2 hrs from DOH?
It will work from Europe then even in the winter time

Thank you for the reply

yes 2hrs
you are welcome
best of luck
regarding the disciplinary action for the 12 hrs rest yeah it happened , after all it all depends on your luck in this company the safest way is to respect it .

GearUpa 2nd Apr 2019 19:40

I am waiting more than a month already. No contact so far.

Che Xindamail 4th Apr 2019 11:55


Originally Posted by A777Er (Post 10436831)

yes 2hrs
you are welcome
best of luck
regarding the disciplinary action for the 12 hrs rest yeah it happened , after all it all depends on your luck in this company the safest way is to respect it .

If you donít abide by the 12hr rule you may get away with it. However, if you donít and then file a fatigue report following your subsequent Chennai night turnaround, then youíre exposing yourself. The QR system is not out to get you, but it does operate strictly by the book. And not just for pilots but for all employees. For example, the company does not care if you perform a go-around, which is SOP. They will care, and ask you to explain, if they find that somewhere up along the approach path you did not follow SOP, which then led to the go-around. It couldnít be simpler, just do what the book says.

PennyJet 4th Apr 2019 21:43

QR Flyers
 
‚Äč‚Äč‚Äč‚Äč‚Äč‚ÄčCan anyone please advise me on how long the Training actually is from doj? And how long after Training finishes, do we get as leave before actual 1st Flt?
Thanks in advance.

bananaman2 5th Apr 2019 08:35


Originally Posted by PennyJet (Post 10439141)
‚Äč‚Äč‚Äč‚Äč‚Äč‚ÄčCan anyone please advise me on how long the Training actually is from doj? And how long after Training finishes, do we get as leave before actual 1st Flt?
Thanks in advance.

There are slight variations... it will depend on whether youíre doing a CCQ, are Type Rated or need a Full Type Rating, also where you do your training but count on 3months. For the first 4weeks or so you will be doing little or nothing to do with Ďyourí aircraft... itís Medicals, SEP, Air Law, Company Inductions, Ditching etc.

you get a week Off before Line Training called Training Leave (you can leave the country if you wish)... this is really to enable the company/QCAA to process your licence which you will need to start flying.

PennyJet 5th Apr 2019 08:56

Thanks Bananaman
 

Originally Posted by bananaman2 (Post 10439497)


There are slight variations... it will depend on whether youíre doing a CCQ, are Type Rated or need a Full Type Rating, also where you do your training but count on 3months. For the first 4weeks or so you will be doing little or nothing to do with Ďyourí aircraft... itís Medicals, SEP, Air Law, Company Inductions, Ditching etc.

you get a week Off before Line Training called Training Leave (you can leave the country if you wish)... this is really to enable the company/QCAA to process your licence which you will need to start flying.

Trying to sort out move logistical timing with family move. When/How.... TR. Yes, the Line Training Leave to be able to bring Family, Family processions and Fur Family back in during this time.
Thank you. Will plan on having a week.
Thank you for your heads-up.

Flyboy_SG 6th Apr 2019 00:08


Originally Posted by level_change (Post 10429635)
My stats for this fiscal year are approximately 1050 block hours on 777, factored (FO). Duty Time over 1600.
Great lifestyle, I can only recommend it to everyone because the city is also so nice and your family will love it. If you are single you will love our fantastic cabin crew as well. They might not say hello to you because you are most likely someone who earns too much for doing nothing, while at the same time just trying to sleep with them on layovers and they know from the company that it's better not to hang out with you (I told you already that the company is smart).
Before I forget, the culture and the positive developments in every aspect of how they run the airline really inspired me.

I really think that I will miss the DOH LAX flight without day off or the cargo runs with min rest every second flight because we have an effective fatigue management system which is entirely embedded in the usual just culture.
Please come and take my place when im gone after my notice is done, the seat will still be warm and I haven't farted a lot recently.




No matter how much you say or how you put it across, no one here is going to listen to you. They will only have to go there and feel what it is like to fly 120 hrs block a month flying through
timezones night in night out. All in a toxic environment. Don't look at the $$ guys, money can't replace peace in life. You don't wana be flying with fear all the time.


Black Pudding 8th Apr 2019 13:35


Originally Posted by Che Xindamail (Post 10438529)


If you donít abide by the 12hr rule you may get away with it. However, if you donít and then file a fatigue report following your subsequent Chennai night turnaround, then youíre exposing yourself. The QR system is not out to get you, but it does operate strictly by the book. And not just for pilots but for all employees. For example, the company does not care if you perform a go-around, which is SOP. They will care, and ask you to explain, if they find that somewhere up along the approach path you did not follow SOP, which then led to the go-around. It couldnít be simpler, just do what the book says.

If anyone ever turned up for duty and openly admits to me they have not had their 12 hours rest, theyíll be offloaded. You may think this is harsh, but if they are stupid enough to tell me, then itís their own fault. Just imagine you have an incident during the flight and then this maverick tells the office he informed you he did not have the required rest. Itís simple here, do as youíre required and everything is ok. If you donít like it, leave and go and work elsewhere.


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