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WrldWide 24th Aug 2015 00:54

gypsyexpat,
The way it was explained to me when I joined is: QCAA will only accept a DEC applicant that has at least 6 months remaining on his PC. As you were current on the 320 that is what they were offering.

I was given NTR 777 but was coming from another widebody.

Bottom line is QCAA dictates the requirements.

Unfortunately, communication with the applicants apparently isn't that good.

Sorry it didn't work out for you.

gypsyexpat 24th Aug 2015 05:43

yep apparently communication is not the best skill of QR....I realize that!!!
anyway this was my experience and with me they weren't so clear. Anyone here has his own experience and plan, so in my case if I applied for a position and you (company) call me for an assessment in that position, I'm expecting to be call for that position otherwise, I have the right to save my annual leave for my family or my self instead of spending it to travel in Doha and prepare myself for an interview for a month before. Again this is my point of view.... Cheers

Southpole 24th Aug 2015 17:06

Dear Ravi Shankar,

It was quite a while I was not reading such a useless post! Thanks!
I'd like to remind you that it was Qatar airways that called gypsy and many others for an interview on the 787.. Plus,if after 13/14 years in Qatar you still believe that they are caring about your seniority well... You made my day!
And good luck!

Anna452 24th Aug 2015 19:20

Guys have you seen this page::

Qatar Airways Group Internal Jobs Site

We can even see the job grades here.

Leemankin 25th Aug 2015 09:03

To gypsie,
Good for you to have found out their "tricks", I would have been pissed the same....however, for me I was called up also however on the same type as I applied for.
To Southpole,
Have you got your offer letter? I was called up as well, but have lots and lots of docs to submit....meantime no offer letter. It doesn't motivate me anymore accomplishing all this without any firm offer.
To whom it may concern,
Based on your experience, is there any certainty as to how long an offer letter gets sent? Is it OK to trust QA HR based on phone call alone? Or is this another "trick"...meaning there is no certainty to anything they say?..and ..better wait for the contract offer? If that is so....does that validate what happened to gypsyexpat? Just kinda worried about what kinda work culture they got? Any comment, good or bad is appreciate..:rolleyes:

studentpilotC172 25th Aug 2015 10:19

Long Wait
 
Went for the interview On Jan 15 waited for the reply 6 months.Passed! Put in the pool and told to be wait.

Southpole 25th Aug 2015 10:41

Leemankin,

I was told contract offer within two weeks from the phone call. As for now I just had to fill an online form with details I believe they should already have.. I am taking it with philosophy, I am not in a hurry.
If I get it I'll let you know.

N1LNAVVNAV 25th Aug 2015 11:32

Anna 452 cut the Crap
 
This is the Global website and still shows the vacancy for pilots, They will never stop interviewing, they don't care about giving you a ticket to the pool for 12 months and then have you reaply, what it may happen soon is that they will raise their minimum flight hours and stop the DEC. (at least for wide body)

Qatar Airways Careers - Current Opportunities

Btw, a good friend of mine who assisted interview in May, got an email From HR saying that he was going to be on the Pool for a long time, cause they are only calling TYPE Rated FOs on the B777, Airbus has a different game.

N1

Black Pudding 25th Aug 2015 11:59

I think your contract will say along the lines that Qatar Airways can at anytime change you to any fleet we operate at anytime due to Commercial reasons if needed. It does not happen often, but can.


So think about the following


1 Do you want to work for Qatar Airways


2 Do you need this job


3 Are you prepared to fly any aircraft we operate from 320 to 380s


If your coming here because you want to get a rating only, and not because you want to work here, then maybe you're not the right person for the job.


Again, I will say this


Many here are very happy and cant be bothered to waste time reading half the crap posted here nor comment.


Some here on the 320 fleet are very happy and don't want fleet change believe it or not. So thinking wide body pilots have the best lifestyle etc may not be the case. I am not saying their lifestyle is bad, but what I am saying is there are many on the 320 who are happy and do not want fleet change.


Doha is not Dubai or Abu Dhabi and some actually like it that way. If you want to live in Dubai or Abu Dhabi, then apply there, shut up slagging Doha off and give it a rest. What's more important to you, being happy where you live, happy in work or happy family. If you're in a position to be offered a job at all 3 carriers, lucky you. Do your research well. Must add, I wonder how many threads are on this forum about Qatar Airways, Emirates and that airline that is so wonderful to work for I cant mention its name.


Some here are so glad they don't work for the 2 other Gulf carries and are happy to stay. Some have left for the unnamed airline and are happy, some applied to come back. All depends on the individual.


If you are thinking of coming here just because you want the type rating, and have been lucky enough to have been offered a job, then good for you, but be prepared to fly any of the aircraft we operate just in case they change you after you arrive. It does not happen often, but has happened in the past. You could simply refuse it and argue the case and if that does not work, take it or leave it. Again, must highlight it does not happen often, but your contract will say it may. This is just in case they have to.


As for the office staff. They are just doing their job and there is no untowards, as in dangling a carrot just to get you here. They will e-mail you and tell you the fleet they are genuinely assigning you. They will not dangle a carrot just to get you here.


Go to work, do your job, smile, be stable at 1000 feet, go home "It couldn't be simpler" dot.com


One last thing to remember. This forum is read daily by our company


Good luck to all.


Regards BB

oneworld787 25th Aug 2015 13:24

A wonderful post BB!

Leemankin 25th Aug 2015 13:47

Black pudding,
Good point and advice well taken....any other takers on the issue? Everyone applying for QR I guess would be happy to hear some other comments.
I believe, we need to hear the pros and cons, to as many Pilots as we can, some wouldn't probably mind giving a few minutes of their time. Again appreciate each and every comment, good or bad.
Southpole,
Thanks for the info, and I would say, it's really good you have a lot of patience....I just hope I'll have the same...happy flying though.

Anna452 25th Aug 2015 14:48

N1LNAVVNAV i didnt post about pilots. This link i posted above, they have written the job grades for each position. While in the original Qatar career site, they havnt written the grades. I thought thats pretty interesting to take a look at, for regardless position.

WrldWide 25th Aug 2015 15:14

BP,
Spot on.
Do the work, get paid. I like the job, mostly.

Works for me and my family, doesn't work for some others and thier families. Such are the times we live in.

Bottom line is, go into whatever job you take in whatever part of this globe with your eyes open, wide.

... And not based primarily on what you read on Internet forums FFS.

anilrawat 25th Aug 2015 15:43

Leemankin if you don't mind me asking what aircraft you flying at present…and what fleet you applied for thanks…..

Any non type rated skippers got call for A320 position recently who interviewed in Feb 2015.. just curious to know as I applied for the same and since then in holding pool….

Stone_cold 25th Aug 2015 17:25

Until you don't need an exit permit to be "allowed " to leave the place ...you are a slave ! Nothing more ,nothing less...they just throw more Riyals at you to feel good . Conditions only improve when they can't find enough Guys to fill the seats . The country is sh*t and due to the World cup finally are pretending to address human right issues .Who knows what you will get when the midget cleanses the Flight ops management again . How many times have the management been "reassigned " . How recent was the last cleansing?

Amazing how the hopefuls just suck it up when someone posts a positive spin , do you all think that so many negative posts are BS ? Some are happy , some are trapped for various reasons ...some just don' t have options . But there is good and bad ...buyer beware !
So yes , things may have improved , but in QR you are just one management change away from whats under the glitter .

WrldWide 25th Aug 2015 18:51

Stonecold,
If you honestly think pilot labour is more "valued" and uhm, "appreciated" in other parts of the world, I have some "investments" you may be interested in.

Stone_cold 25th Aug 2015 20:16

But in other parts of the world , everyone ...including pilot's have legal recourse and cannot be held in a country except for legal , read court , action , not because your company's immigration department can revoke your freedom ticket at will , but pay your QR500 and assume that you can leave anytime ...just a click away .

BTW , I never said anything about being appreciated or valued !

You didn't answer , how often do they fire the management ? If the management have no job security , what does that say for the troops .

As for the country , how many Mall fires ? How many kids died in Villagio where the owner was found responsible , yet is still free , for example ??

Flytdeck 25th Aug 2015 23:46


But in other parts of the world , everyone ...including pilot's have legal recourse and cannot be held in a country except for legal , read court , action , not because your company's immigration department can revoke your freedom ticket at will , but pay your QR500 and assume that you can leave anytime ...just a click away .
Other parts of the world, but not all. As pilots we are exposed to the national laws where the accident occurs. You may have an issue if you have an accident in Doha just as like any other carrier.

Shouldn't get sucked into this but the reference to the Villagio disaster is just sickening as related to this thread and it is depressing just remembering that day. It has no direct relevance to working here and as a direct result of this terrible event there have been major improvements in facility standards and checking. This is NOT a western court system here. This is NOT a western country. Or would you like to discuss the American justice system, the OJ Simpson trial perhaps, or maybe the case of former President Nixon?

Scroll up, read Black Pudding's excellent post, make up your own mind.

Leemankin 26th Aug 2015 09:37

Anilrawat,
I' ll PM you.
gents,
I guess I have the answers I need to hear, thanks for pitching in. Really hard this days to get the things you want it an airline. Bottom line is, still up to our needs or wants, plus our family's also. Great posts everyone....keep calm and happy flyin.
I' ll just decide when the time comes...

Dking737 26th Aug 2015 13:27

Hi
 

Originally Posted by Leemankin (Post 9095470)
Anilrawat,
I' ll PM you.
gents,
I guess I have the answers I need to hear, thanks for pitching in. Really hard this days to get the things you want it an airline. Bottom line is, still up to our needs or wants, plus our family's also. Great posts everyone....keep calm and happy flyin.
I' ll just decide when the time comes...

Hey plz PM me also with all the relevant information.

Kind regards,
Dking737


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