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K1000 7th Aug 2013 21:54

HELP
 
Hello to eveyone. I'm interested in knowing more about QR Airline. I currently work and live in South America. As I've seen many old threads in which mostly the are complaints I'm interested in hearing a very sincere point of view. I live in a third world country, meaning a not wonderful place like USA or Europe. I work in a company where A330 FO makes about 4500 dollars with out any housing or extra benefits like many airlines in ME offer, just transportation allowance.

Most of the complaints I see are from people in Europe and North America, and as a pilot who has been in Europe and USA I guess it's much better to work and live in Europe and USA and there are better Jobs in Europe and in USA.

I don't have a problem in following a SOP, but I get really scared of how many people complain and say how it isn't enough to live in Qatar for what you get paid, or how rosters are crazy and the company has very strict rules.

Making 4500 dollars on my country where I have to pay my housing and bills and tax is considered a lot since the minimum wage in the country is only 300 dollars a month.

I would really appreciate a good detail on the airline with a sincere point of view. Thank you very much to all. Happy landings.

A330 FO with 4000 hours.

Iver 7th Aug 2013 23:30

With A330 time I would apply to the other two big UAE carriers first...

Good luck!

hawk99 8th Aug 2013 07:36

Seems like a case for guiness book.congrats

Airb 8th Aug 2013 11:36

The Shovel,
have you applied for FO or DEC?

from BG2CT 8th Aug 2013 12:30

looks like everyone waiting for that September update

av8tordude 8th Aug 2013 16:24


Originally Posted by K1000
Most of the complaints I see are from people in Europe and North America, and as a pilot who has been in Europe and USA I guess it's much better to work and live in Europe and USA and there are better Jobs in Europe and in USA.

Actually, majority of the complaints are from Europe! The other thing that you should consider is the person's previous flying background. If one came from an airline having 20 days off, 2-4-trips a month, etc, of course that person is going to complain if one has only 8 days off, 8-10 trips a month, etc. But if you asked the guy who came from a low cost airline or a regional airline, you will hear a completely diffident tune.


Originally Posted by K1000
I don't have a problem in following a SOP,

Good, knowing your SOPs is paramount here! Usually pilots are terminated, not for any one reason, but for multiple reasons added together. Of course, you do something that not fitting of person with good character, you can bet you will find yourself terminated.


Originally Posted by K1000
but I get really scared of how many people complain and say how it isn't enough to live in Qatar for what you get paid, or how rosters are crazy and the company has very strict rules.

Again, it depends on your situation. Are you single or married w/kids, FO or DEC.

These are just avg amounts for above normal living ...

Housing - 12k-16k QAR Qatar Properties to Rent | Rent Property in Doha & all over Qatar - propertyfinder.qa
Utilities - 500- 800 QAR
Phone - 100- 200 QAR Ooredoo - or Vodafone Qatar: iPhone, Blackberry, Postpaid Plans, Prepaid Plans, Internet
Food - 1k-2k QAR
Internet - See above links
Transportation - Rent (1800 -3500 QAR)
Education - various on # of children

3.65 QAR = 1 USD

Fly4Fun 8th Aug 2013 19:19

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K1000 8th Aug 2013 20:36

Housing
 
Hows the Housing that QR offers for FO, i would be applying for FO? Is it in a good place? or is it better to opt out. Thank you. Is it better to Rent a car or buy one? is there parking spaces available at the airport for employees or how does it work?

Thank you av8tordude i really appreciate your feedback.

If any one else wants to add anything else, I would really appreciate it.

Ve764 9th Aug 2013 14:23

Qatar Flight Deck Roadshows
 
Anybody going to the roadshows?? I plan to attend in ORD.Will try to provide updated info...Ve764

K1000 9th Aug 2013 15:26

Thank you Javadreaming for the info.


For first officers the holiday villas are probably the best
Are we allowed to stay here as well or this is an option to stay if we were to go for housing allowance?

I am married but no kids, In Ain Khaled Gate are there 2 story houses or villas only? I really don't know whats the proper name, or is it mixed with apartments?

by any chance do you know whats a typical Roster for a A330 FO, overnights, hours, days off, etc.

Once again thank you very much.

hawk99 9th Aug 2013 17:54

Company housing is NOT offered to FOs now.

K1000 9th Aug 2013 18:00

Housing
 
Did you recently apply?

aiellosky 9th Aug 2013 18:48

Right now, as i have been told per the recruitment one week ago, only company housing is being provided.

casablanca 9th Aug 2013 18:51

What is your source that housing is not provided? It seems to be the opposite as currently everyone receives housing( although if it changed 180 degrees overnight I would not be too shocked)

K1000 9th Aug 2013 20:46

So is there company housing or not?

gatbusdriver 10th Aug 2013 05:37

AKG has villas that have a waiting list in the region of 18 months. There are also 3 bed apartments and duplex apartments. Facilities are excellent, apartments a bit dark, call to prayer at Lord knows what time is something you get used to (apparently)!

Gbd

hawk99 10th Aug 2013 06:26

I was for PAT at Doha recently.met my friends at Qatar airways.its a pretty long waiting list as compounds are full and no upcoming new compounds.

F14 10th Aug 2013 08:32

Housing is a big issue. Which still remains unresolved.

They say policy is to provide all pilots housing. However if nothing available you will be given the allowance. You will have up to 4 weeks in the company accommodation. You may be able to stretch this another 2 weeks if you can't find anything.

You will not be able to find out until the day you arrive if company housing is available, if you can, better to leave the family at home until you are settled. If company housing is available no problem, but if you need to move out many guys goto serviced apartments, this activates the housing allowance which you accrue. Thus giving you some time to look around for something and get a feel for the place and the areas of the city regarding schools, malls, traffic, etc. Some single guys or commuters do share and actually bank money out of the allowance.

Housing rentals are expensive and the allowance is insufficient. Secondly there are up front costs. Normally half a months rent to the agent, a month up front and 11 post-dated cheques. Plus one undated cheque as a security deposit. If non-type rated they take the bond deduction from day one, so if you can save some money before start date it does help with these up front costs.

Hopefully there will be a rent freeze (there was one a while back) and then an increase in the allowance.:ok:

salamalikum2 10th Aug 2013 12:37

F14,
Since Qataris ( and so qataris pilots)got a 60% pay rise recently, I doubt there will be any kind of increase for us ( expats) before a while...
That's my 2 cents feeling.

K1000 10th Aug 2013 13:24

A330 FO Roster
 
Can anyone maybe illustrate a FO A330 roster. It would be really appreciated. Thank you.


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