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DesertHawk 4th Jul 2007 12:56

IB correct but the problem here is the engineers and many other have allowed abnormal situations to become normal. For instance no apu and 1 bleed inop crossing into india....every single engineer just looks at MEL and says its a go item....where us the safety in this? the real problem is nothing gets fixed and too many YES men here. The company attitude towards snags is disgraceful and most of the pilots here have got so used to it they think it is normal.

LDG NO BLUE 4th Jul 2007 16:57

A40-LB is a classic example of what's happening around maintenance:

SEC1 was faulty for a while, the MEL operational procedure requires the use of TOGA thrust for every takeoff, i.e: EGT redlining every time.

Until....

LB experiences an engine failure with damage coming from JED.
How much does it cost a SEC?
How much does it cost an engine?

This is a classic example of how crippled our maintenance is and since nobody hears from Engine failures, cheers for the GF flight safety culture.

Anybody knows what happend over Iraq? The RA that stopped GF flying those routes?

It does not mean that it's legal that it's safe...:yuk:

vomit comet 4th Jul 2007 17:42

Very poor taste Cap Al Fakhem Snr, good job you are leaving since we definately don't need your racism around here. Good luck in your next outfit & i really hope that you do not have to fly with us incompetent Arabs:}.
CI100, you forget to mention that reason number 1 not to fly GF is that you maybe operating:ugh: but i am sure you are now much more experienced now that you have built up a few hours on a big jet & flying around in a commerial enviroment. Cheers crop duster:ok::ok::ok::ok::ok:

Chuck Y 4th Jul 2007 17:57

VomitBoy well said. Pack ya bags guys ;)

DesertHawk 4th Jul 2007 18:41

guy si agree the racism is not fair.. but how can u defend what is going on? I understand this is the only place u have worked, but what is going on here is not good. The GF safety culture is borderline at the best of times. Wake up guys we all fly here and should all have an interest in increasing safety. therefore lets voice our concern to the proper people hopefully in mass. sometimes i wish we all got a oppourtunity to fly somewhere else to see how they do it. in my opinion sometimes i find people just give up...there is not way that BA.EK.AC or anyother major airline flys aircraft in this condition and the CAPT would just not take this crap.

CI100 4th Jul 2007 18:44

Some of the 320s shiver (Airframe) so much that is hard to write at times. We even had CSM coming to the cockpit telling us that the whole back galley is shaking to the point that they have to fill the glasses ˝ full. (Or empty,…you pick)

Now this is new NTC:

Without more ado all 320 crew are required to hold slight rudder input during climb and cruise to stop the airframe vibration. This action has to be confirmed by PNF calling it: rudder star followed by rudder green.

Copy of the chart explaining the amount of rudder impute can be obtained from Missmach.

Saner Al Malsi
Portending HOFO

CI100 4th Jul 2007 18:55

You are bang on boy; I was crop dusting back in late 80s. You are calling 320 a big jet? They call it minibus back in Dubai. But again it is BIG weigh against a seneca that you are more familiar with beside Gulf Air.

LDG NO BLUE 4th Jul 2007 19:02

A fine addition
 
Chief Pilot A330/340 has joined the massalama list!:D

CI100 4th Jul 2007 19:06

another FO 320 was in the office stamping his logbooks, signing forms.

Looked like he is on his way out too.

ironbutt57 5th Jul 2007 05:28

It's become the norm because crews accept the aircraft...on an individual basis the engineers know who they can push a bum aircraft onto and who they cant....the pen is mightier than the sword...if it is applicable pull out the pen...

CI100 5th Jul 2007 07:31

Chief Pilot A330/340

What a blessing......I just hope I don't have to fly with him somewhere else.

CI100 5th Jul 2007 13:42

Vomit

Oh...poor you......

Let me guess!

Emirates said no to you? not even a call? oh poor you....

Don't worry the ban will be lifted one day at Emptyhad and you too can apply.....just remember your definition of "BIG" once you got on a real plane.

I am not going to bring my level to lower than this.....This should be enough for you,.....the above mentioned fact will burn you enough. :\

Che Guevara 5th Jul 2007 18:30

Hola camaradas,
I am truly humbled and honoured to be the company of such great aviators....:rolleyes:
"crop dusters, someone who's slogged dead moose in the bush, you learn how to fly when your single engine quits between 2 lakes or at 5 feet above ground" etc.
How can any of us compete?

Sorry but can we get back to the topic or at least close to it?

How many 'aviators' have actually resigned and how many are going to...any numbers yet?

Heard a rumour today that an A-320 is now indefinately grounded in ZHR until repairs to the corrosion are completed...apparently ferried out on a 3 sector permit pending....yikes! Any truth in this? :eek:

Also heard that our load factor this month is 65%.....and this is our busy season...better 'surf' that wave amigos.

Finally 'aviators' get over the racism...definately not cool, just reflects on your upbringing.
Oh, by the way, does flying helicopters in a war count as good experience...is the 747 a 'heavy jet', come on grow up, don't embarress youself, you don't know who is on this forum ;)

Hasta la vista

airpilot_A3xx 5th Jul 2007 23:03

Back to the topic boys:hmm: 4 A340/330 F/O's gave their notice today (thur) going to Etihad. I was there and wished them good luck:D

brassplate 5th Jul 2007 23:44

i resigned because of the sudden increase of years for progression accompanied by the disproportionately small increase in salary. i really feel for those who had scaled the seniority over the past few years to then hit a brick wall when their turn came as a direct result of gf's restructuring. starting all over with another company can't be an easy decision.

2lowgear 6th Jul 2007 06:16

Brassplate.."starting over can't be easy"
 
As much as I did enjoy the time I spent at Gulf Air, I must say making the decision to start over elsewhere wasn't hard at all. I was very close to upgrading here, but after the restructuring it was clear that I had some ways to go again. I might as well bite the bullet now and que up in a more stable place.

airpilot_A3xx 6th Jul 2007 10:14

Just to let you know boys GF is recruting pilots in two weeks time:D I thought they were getting rid of 150:{ WHAT happen to plan Zzzz:confused:

Desert Diner 6th Jul 2007 10:16

I suppose they need to recruit if their current lot are leaving!

vomit comet 6th Jul 2007 11:29

update for u guys: 25 pilots resigned to ey,5 to ek 7 to arabia,2 to jazeera,6 to qatari.4 to easy jet..4pilots per week current rate according to office...400 cabin crew already left the island...nice one bn:ok:u and the board take your time sorting things out..new rumour local pilots prepare to strike! :E:E:E

GF{crew} 6th Jul 2007 12:56

its abut time that local pilot to strike? and why its only the local how about all pilot and were is the cabin crew from this are they all busy calculating the 300 fils increase if all stand and say somthing we could make the difrent dont they teach us in CRM to be all one cabin crew and pilot let show them we learn fom CRM somthing and we are standing together. hope this rumor be true?


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