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Eldin 14th Jun 2006 16:12

Blame the Dog if the Dog Tax isn't paid....
 
Capt. Ed says that it is "unacceptable" if a pilot is no longer current on a CAT C airfield like the Seychelles or Sanaa.


According to him, it's obviously the pilot's fault.


Making people - who have only limited influence on the flights they are awarded - responsible for falling out of currency is like blaming my dog if I should have forgotten to pay the Dog Tax.



Bad Dog!
Sit....

(I just hope Capt. Ed doesn't hit me with a rolled newpaper.)

Not from here 14th Jun 2006 16:25

Yes a very interesting point, I will not be current for SEZ next month tried to get one in my Top Bid no Joy. So now it’s my fault that I am not current, so I suppose it’s off for Tea and Biscuits
Better check if I booked my sim for next month thinks that due as well

ruserious 14th Jun 2006 21:40

The way I see it you are only responsible if you actually fly the aircraft out of currency or qualification. If the airline has to delay the aircraft for 2 hours, because it lacks the systems and resources to ensure a properly qualified crew, then that is their problem, you have done nothing wrong. You could argue you have broken no rules until you land at the Cat-x airport in question.
Another fine example of an organization in crisis, due to rampant cost cutting.

square leg 14th Jun 2006 22:22

I think what is meant, is that it is the pilot's responsibility to make the company aware of the fact that a qualification is going to lapse. It would be silly to blame the pilot for not keeping current, if his sphere of influence doesn't reach that far and if the planners don't plan properly. But it does make sense that a pilot should be responsible for at least making the planners aware that somebody has overseen something.

Afterall we are, or should be working as a team and not be out to seek blame, but to identify problem areas and find solutions. We rely on each other and as such are a team. And... there is always a solution to every problem. The outcome might not be attractive to all parties involved, but there is always a solution. I guess that's when we should change our perspective on the issue at hand.

Keep smiling:)

Vorsicht 14th Jun 2006 23:08

square leg
 
You are quite right of course, but when i read that email i took immediate offence to the tone and wording.

I definitely felt as though we were again being blamed for management shortcomings. Those lazy pilots at it again.

Given the Mr Ed has been here about 5 minutes, i think that email was totally out of line.

Warlock2000 15th Jun 2006 06:35

Dear Capt Ed,

This is to advise you that my currency in various fields of EK operations will, at some point in time, expire. Kindly have operations monitor these and roster me accordingly.

Regards,
L.A Zee-Pilot


Wonder if this would put the ball BACK in their court? :E

uplock 15th Jun 2006 12:34

My Dream Flight
 
Is it true that you could have fitted all the guys who are out of Sanna Recency and put there hands up into the telephone Box out side Mr Edd"s Office?
http://www.tvcrazy.net/tvclassics/wa...an-munster.jpg

ursopilot 15th Jun 2006 13:01

So funny
 
How about guys that are fully qualified for the left seat who have been delayed 6 to 8 months? Is that unacceptable as well?:cool:

montencee 15th Jun 2006 13:29

Haven't met Capt Ed but when I saw his recent message briefly considered giving him a 'heads up' on his lack of understanding of how his Flt Ops department runs.

Then I remembered his introduction in the April newsletter and reckon there's more mileage in watching him stuff up.

His words went something like this:

'....... I believe professionalism and safety are intertwined. I am strongly supportive of those who practice both and tough on those who do not'.

Rousing stuff. Hope that he'll be having a chat with himself about his poorly researched memos.

And that reminds me of AS and his pregnant pax missive............

Eldin 15th Jun 2006 15:45


Originally Posted by uplock
Is it true that you could have fitted all the guys who are out of Sanna Recency and put there hands up into the telephone Box out side Mr Edd"s Office?
http://www.tvcrazy.net/tvclassics/wa...an-munster.jpg




Finally!!!


Soemone catching on to the "Mr. Ed" thing.

I was beginning to think it was my age......

145qrh 15th Jun 2006 16:01

Mr Ed.

The talking (H)Arse...

Nil defects 15th Jun 2006 17:17

Ahh memories of a great show.....

Here's the link to the theme song..about half way down page Mr Ed wav

http://wavthis.com/TV.html

violate 17th Jun 2006 06:32

Well it looks like Mr Ed has bought the EK corporate culture, hook, line and sinker. Shift the blame/responsibility to the pilots, demand their professionalism and display none himself.
When is this company going to wake up to the fact that it has a duty of care for its employees and actually has to pay for a few systems to support them. Yes I know an expectation too far.

MR8 17th Jun 2006 10:15

Like the picture of Mr. Ed and TCAS...

MR8


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