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RPG 12th Apr 2006 06:18

Emirates FO wages
 
Was looking at the Emirates website and checking FO salaries.
In comparison to my regional command pay Emirates only pays an extra 15% cash on basic. Um... What gives ? Do allowances make a big difference, would anyone like to clarify what FO dollars wash out at ?

RPG

Gillegan 12th Apr 2006 07:57

Overnight allowances at Emirates are some of the lowest in the industry so no big win fall there. As far as other allowances go, Emirates does provide an education allowance for up to 3 children. How much that covers depends on the school the children attend - it covers roughly half for me. If you have no children then there is no value there for you.

Accommodation is a touchy subject here. The company provides housing - an apartment for single FO's and married FO's w/no kids. A villa is provided if you have children. Some accommodations are nice and others are not. If you are one of the unlucky ones, your only choice is to opt out and take the accommodation allowance which does not nearly cover the cost of renting. Renters are required to pay their own utilities and taxes (yes there are taxes). Should you choose to buy a place, again, you will most likely be out of pocket for the difference between your allowance and the cost of the mortgage, utilities, taxes and fees. An unfortunate experience with the accommodation department can be enough to make the job untenable.

In my opinion and in the opinion of many others, the package is not enough to justify living here. Volumes have been written here about the shortcomings of the package vs. living in Dubai. I'll leave it to you to do your research. As far as the actual value of the package to you, you need to figure out just what you would be entitled to and calculate how much you would be out of pocket vs. how much you can save and compare that with what you already have and just as important, what you want to achieve.

uplock 13th Apr 2006 05:42

Utilities Allowance is NEVER updated to reflect what you will have to pay
 
Worth mentioning with the Emirates Utility Allowance the company has ignored previous increases in real terms of water, electricity, Real Rent Prices and for several years the Municipality Tax.

Do not see this policy changing.

Try renting a similar Villa to that which the Accommodation department will place you in as well as pay the Municipality Tax (5% of your rent) plus Water and Electricity. No way does the Company Allowance cover this.
Then compare this to what is now being offerd at Silicon Oasis for a reality check and also compare this with how quickly Dubai continues to expand and grow.
The Tax made front page news in the Gulf News Paper yesterday April 12th for those who want to do a Google. In short you pay 5% of what you rent to the Government who have you now over a barrel as its tied in with your Electricity and water Bill. The calculation of the rates is controversial; however, in Dubai shifting the goal posts is not just confined to EK.
Don't get sucked in and think that you can pocket the Utilities Allowance as you are able to locate "Cheap Housing" At the recruitment stage I was shown a "dream villa" but the reality bore no resemblence was run down,noisy so I opted for the Utilities Allowance. No regrets other than the company not keeping up its end of the agreement ( EK will not make real term adjustments to the cost of living to the U.A.)
Heres an article from todays Gulf News paper

Housing fee 'is a big burden'
By Mariam M. Al Serkal Staff Reporter
Dubai: Dubai residents offered mixed reactions to the move by Dubai Municipality seeking to enforce a five per cent housing fee for all residents and commercial establishments.
They felt that it would either not make a difference to the city, or that landlords should bear the cost, or that it was a wise decision that came at a necessary time.
The move, which seeks to implement the housing fee through all real estate agencies providing data about their tenants, will affect more than 250,000 tenants.
"The monthly electricity bill is already too high, more than Dh700. Now I'll only have more bills to pay off," said Ramesh B., an Indian accountant who has lived here for 10 years.
"I live with my family, and I don't think it's fair that they have to pay extra," said Jonalyn Yabut, a saleswoman from the Philippines, who thinks that the cost of living will always rise in one aspect or another.
John Smith, who has been living in Mirdif for the past few years, hopes that the government will use the funds wisely, and hopefully remove all the rubbish that is found around certain villa compounds. "I'm paying premium rent, and even though I get a housing allowance, it doesn't cover it, and I have to pay out of my pocket. If the municipality is going to charge me extra, I hope that they could get rid of the rubbish that is usually found on the floor after neighbours throw it out of their windows," said the Briton.
"I don't think that there should be any fee charged, everything is already expensive as it is," said Richard Harting, a tourist from the US.
"It's a very good move," said Dr Victor, who is from the Philippines and has been living in the UAE for five years.
"The roads need to be improved, and much of the city's infrastructure needs to be developed, and so this is the way for that to happen. But I am lucky that I don't have any children, because otherwise I wouldn't be able to afford the rising costs," he said.
"The housing fee should be recovered from the landlords," declared Remy D'Souza, a deputy manager from India who has lived here for 10 years.
"I agree that the tenants should not have to pay, but the landlords should," said Siraam Subbaraman, an accountant from India, who found the housing fee an unnecessary burden. "My wife and I don't own our home, it's rented. So I feel that the municipality should make the landlords pay the fee since they own the property," he said.
"I appreciate the jobs Dubai has given us, but they don't have a plan for low-cost housing," said Lindy B., a Filipina secretary, explaining that costs in every aspect of life have gone up, and that this new action only increases her burden.
"It's very unreasonable because it will give people more reason to change the location of where they live. Rent is always going up, and if the utility bill also goes up, we are all going to feel its effect in our daily lives. We cannot spend as much as we used to," said Syrian supervisor Dia'a Youness, who has been living in the city for a year and has noticed the high cost of living.
"There were no taxes in this country before, and now with this fee it will put a burden to us," said Indian retail manager Asif Siddiqi, from India.
"It will affect me a lot because my salary is only Dh1,500 and I don't think I will be able to afford it," said Filipina Christine Alterado.


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