OSAMA AIRLINES
 

Anybody know what OSAMA Airlines are paying Check Airman,and where will there base be Jed or Rya?

Hi all,

I'm also interested to learn where they will base the flight crews . Anybody out there could give us some informations on the cost of living in both Jed & Rya :ie Compound housing, schools etc....

thanks ,

Dj.

about interview.
 

I also on the process of an interview.

Did you get any exact date, location and terms ?

Is interview by your own cost or SAMA support for an interview?

I will open the PM for any infos.

good luck to your interview, captain! :ok:

I've got some info from somebody.
 

The SAMA pilot’s salary scale




Benefit Captain SF/O F/O S/O

Objective: target monthly earning US$ US$ 10,500 $ 7500 $5000 $3000
Saudi Riyal SR 39,500 SR 28,200 SR 18,800 SR11300

BREAKDOWN
Ø1 Salary $ 6000 $ 4000 $ 2000 $1000
Ø2 Transport $ 400 $ 300 $ 300 $300
Ø3 Housing $ 2000 $ 1500 $ 1500 $1000
Ø4 Annual home ticket $ 100 $ 100 $ 100 $60
Ø5 Medical cover $ 60 $ 60 $ 60 $60
Ø6 Sector pay (50 to 60 per month) $35 per sector $ 25 $ 15 $10

Instructors premium (per year):
Ø7 Check airman/ examiner $6000
Ø8 Line training / examiner $3000
Ø9 Simulator instructor $1500 $750
Ø10 Ground school instructor $500

ADDITIONAL CREW COSTS ITEMS:
Company pay
Ø11 License cost Company pay Company cost Company cost Company cost
Ø12 Flight instructor certification Company cost Company cost Company cost
Ø13 Ground instructor approval Company pay
Ø14 License medical $ Actual $ Actual $ Actual $ Actual
Ø15 Uniform FOC FOC FOC FOC
Ø16 Moving allowance (once off) $3000 $3000 $3000 Nil
Ø17 Residence permits Company pay Company pay Company pay Company pay
Ø18 Certification issues Company pay Company pay Company pay Company pay
Ø19 Indoc and recurrent training (!) Company pay Company pay Company pay Company pay
Ø20 Future salary indexing Board approval Board approval Board approval Board approval
Ø21 Termination bonus 0.5 of month to year 5 and 1 month thereafter 0.5 of month to year 5 and 1 month thereafter 0.5 of month to year 5 and 1 month thereafter 0.5 of month to year 5 and 1 month thereafter
Ø22 Profit sharing Not yet confirmed Not yet confirmed Not yet confirmed Not yet confirmed
(!) All pilots will complete a type rating


INFORMATION:

Based on the above we will have four grades of pilots.

Captains,
Senior First Officer,
First Officer and
Second Officer.

The minimum qualification for each would be as follows:

Captain: total not less than 4000 hours on aircraft over 50 tonnes. 2000 hours command on type .
SF/O : Total hours sufficient to be issued an ATP , not less than 2000 hours on B737 or equivalent. Upgrade to Captain requires 4000 hours total time
F/O: Total hours 1500 not les than 800 on B7373 or equivalent.
S/O: Total hours 200+ with no airline or jet experience.



I'm not sure these scales are correct.
But better than no infos or at lease will be good clues.
Good Luck to all! :ok:

Sama
 

hi, anyone know what is happening here, as understand the Saudi authorities have delayed any licence issue to new carriers until end of year. As i understand it they hired a bunch of european consultants and am sure the main man HRH is not to impressed by the experience or shall we say lack of it from there key people who until this were a bunch of unknowns. hopefully they get there licence, but up against 2 others for only 2 licences.

NAS and Al-Tayyar??

If you look in the Cabin Crew forum, you will see complaints about NAS changing contracts, late payments and crew not getting their days off. Is this a good sign for a new company? Can they really be considered a serious contender for the forthcoming licences?

Mutt

Check your facts first, my friend. Consultants at Sama have years of low cost airline experience. Government delays can hardly be blamed on the consultants/employees of an airline. Presuming you are Saudi, I also presume you know how slowly the government moves there!

Government delays fully appreciated, but it is very apparent they have lack of experience, in companies that have long gone, the sold a good line to the main man, and no doubt got paid a good amount for it.

It would be easy to give a rundown on there expertise, and maybe HRH should have his eyes opened. Why have consultants here from the reservations system company that is not even up and running. A system that is being got rid of by other airlines. no pilots hired as yet so the delay is a bonus for them, but cabin crew on the books, and more coming very soon.

Hope it works and not just a EGO trip for people, especially the unknown consultancy with a "fruit " name.

Hmmm -- questionable logic there Siddiq. Would you hire a crop duster pilot to captain your 777? Why wouldn't you hire people who have had senior roles in the likes of easyJet, Air Asia, Ryanair, etc. to start-up a low cost airline? Last I checked, these airlines are still around and pretty succesful! What other options do you have? Saudi Arabian hardly cutting edge -- 25,000 employees for how many planes? Sounds like the local guy has his head screwed on alright to me. A few bad decisions would quickly wipe out any "savings" by hiring people who don't have a clue...

only pointing out the delay is fortunate, so they will have time to get the right calibre to operate the aircraft, seeing first aircraft to arrive by end of month and potential sit in Jed until the authorities go forward. aircraft 2-3-4 follow within next couple of months. good business for arabasco.

pedroso
 

fala ai pedroso... abraço

I'm confused :confused: :confused:

GACA have stated that they will accept applications until the end of June, they will then decide at the end of 2006 which 2 companies they will award the licences to, 1 will be based in Riyadh, 1 in Dammam. (Saudia already have the licence for Jeddah).

AFAIK, there are 3 competitors for these 2 licences,

1: NAS
2: SAMA
3: Al Tayyar Air

How can SAMA be actively be recruiting crews and leasing aircraft if they dont even know that they will get a licence to operate?

Mutt

Mutt,
It all depends on "the REAL political weight" of the owner(s) of SAMA. They may feel confident that in the "line of power" they are 1 of the 2 out of 3 applicants. You now how things work.
Cheers

My "wasta" is bigger than your "wasta"....... Interesting situation... :)

Considering that Prince KBS is a minority shareholder in NAS, plus Emaar of Dubai have recently purchased into the company, it will be interesting to see how this ends....

Now where do Al-Tayyar Air feature in all of this???

Mutt

Interview tips!!!
 

Hi fellas. I think one of the original questions on interview tips hadn't been answered yet. So.....whoever out there who had done the interview please share your experience.

flySama interviews
 

Obviously, not too many people have been invited to a Sama Airlines interview. Anyone out there who has been interviewed, please share the details.

interviews
 

It seems they are going back to square one for recruiting with all the delays giving problems for anyone they found first time round cannot or will not give a start time as they do not even know when it might start. plenty of other staff employed sitting on there fingers and aircraft coming, keep in there it will happen.

Latest news is early 2007 start this will give them time to find there crews but will they keep the big amount of ex pat staff until then. the aircraft will start arriving very soon. the fruit company must have given the main man a good line. keep in there

beware
 

Recruitment drive started again on a well known website, beware they are no further forward despite the good line given by there CEO to the board recently, still telling everyone by Dec they will fly, do not give up a job on a promise unless they cross your palm with $$$$. cannot see the fruit company coming out of this very well at all. let us see who is first in the air of the minimum three companies involved.

:sad: :cool:

Invit
 

Thanks Siddiqi, where do you get that piece of information? I've recieved an email from them of congratulations on being shortlisted for interview....this was a month ago. No dates. Can I count on that letter to actually eventually happen or could they turn around and decide not to invite me again?