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ME Expat 25th Oct 2005 16:52

Etihad Facts (No gossip please)
 
As there has been so many rumours floating around about Etihad, I though it was time that we had a thread where people could discuss genuine issues related to this airline. With that in mind, it’d be appreciated if people could not corrupt this thread with negative gossip.

I thought the following facts might be of interest to start it off:

(1) Etihad, based in Abu Dhabi within the United Arab Emirates, will have been operating for 2 years in November.

(2) The current passenger fleet size is 9 aircraft, which consists of 1x B767-300, 1x A340-300 and 7x A330-200’s

(3) There are currently 3 cargo aircraft (1x A300 and 2x A310’s)

(4) The current passenger fleet orders for 2006 include 5x B777-300ER, 6x A330-200 and 4x A340-500

Based on the above growth resulting in there being 24 passenger aircraft after only 3-years of operation, would this be one of the fastest growing airlines ever?

4HolerPoler 25th Oct 2005 22:20

Welcome to the site ME Expat - regretfully I'm not sure you understand how things work here - it's a Rumour Network; not the Professional Pilot's Genuine Issues Network - hey! I like that -PPGeniusnet - you could be onto a winner - best wishes.

Roll out the rumours guys, who wants boring old genuine issues?

4HP (Avid Rumourmonger)

vichooper 26th Oct 2005 00:52

Facts
 
I was interviewed 1-4 September as a DEC for the B-777. The interview was very professional. I say that after having successfully interviewing with Continental, American and Delta and spending 28 years at Delta. Expectations were high, but the attitude was very good. Only time will tell, but in my opinion, they are off to a very good start.

Glorified Donkey 26th Oct 2005 01:01

I agree, when I first heard of Etihad I thought theyd shut down within 2 years, and there were rumours that they werent doing too well, but seems they are here to stay.

boiler 26th Oct 2005 03:48

You have to remember that even if their SF is below 50% for much of the year, it can never shut down as this airline was created by the Govt. of Abu Dhabi with the appoval of the current Emir and therefore has tons of support (financially).

mutt 26th Oct 2005 05:29

I'm proud to be a member of PPGeniusnet.. :):):)

But could someone please explain what SF means?

Cheers

Mutt

SecurID 26th Oct 2005 07:16

Come on Mutt, you're an old hand here...

SF = Seat Factor

ME Expat 26th Oct 2005 16:52

It may be a stupid question but wouldn't the seat factor stay low on Etihad because of the continual increase in aircraft capacity and destinations?

(i.e. I'm sure the routes can be solidly booked & then another 250 seats become available at 2-3 new destinations which will take time to fill seats)

fullforward 26th Oct 2005 17:35

My two cents
 
Flights to FRA and LON are already a remarkable success, some days even overbooked. Nobody told me this, I KNOW THIS.

ME, you missed the 4 A380 order.

I join Vic on their comments.

HI VIC!!!! Nice to see in this space, hope to meet you and the great bunch of boys at the desert again!...

ME Expat 28th Oct 2005 03:55

I see on the website that Etihad will shortly be flying to Toronto, Brussels, Paris, Johannesburg and Manila.

4 of these sound great, however I was wondering why anyone would go to Brussels. However, after a quick internet search I found the following:

"No matter where you are in Belgium, there’s a party going on – and you’re invited! From 8pm until 8am – in that space of time between savoring a beautiful beer and piping hot waffles – Belgium’s exuberant nightlife will prove that sometimes it’s worth it to skip a good night’s sleep. Jazz festivals, rock concerts, exotic nightclubs, traditional brown pubs and casinos are all a part of daily life here in the heart of Europe.

Brussels alone has over 80 bars. We need someplace to house our 450 beers!"

I don't know about the waffle attraction but the beers sound good for summer (after UAE perfect weather, I can't cope with anything under 20 degrees C).

unablereqnavperf 28th Oct 2005 08:34

Indeed I have vast experience of Belguim, work is a sware word there Belgians love to party and know how to do it! Suffered many a hangover to prove it! However don't expect good wx its rains more often that anywhere I know exept perhaps Holland!

Sheikh Ahmed BinSaif 28th Oct 2005 09:25

yew eyre mine guist wen wee go too brussels fullof ofrwrad

gahba for me thieey layke brussels bicose hawse for me very naice theyre

Etihad, bestest ayrline four the world

you eyre!

insh allah!

Bi bi

boiler 28th Oct 2005 13:35

2 possible reasons why EY might fly to BRU. The first is that there is a large amount of traffic between BRU and India. This is could be why Jet Airways was planning to go there as well on their way to JFK (on hold now due to court proceedings against Jet Airways). The second reason might be traffic rights. There is no way EY can get traffic rights from the UK to N. America. But if EY was able to get them from BRU, then it can fill the plane with local traffic which would be helpful as they will probably be higher yield than the ISC traffic to Canada.

sandstorm inferno 28th Oct 2005 20:20

Why Brussels?

- European Union
- NATO
- EUROCONTROL
- Manneken Pis
- Atomium monument
- Jean-Claude Van Damme born there :{



Well I don't know...

boeingdream787 28th Oct 2005 21:17

PPGeniusnet membership....???..MUTT.....
 
Can anybody gimme details on how I can get membership to PPGeniusnet membership? Mutt.......can u help bro. Whats the site add? Thx in advance.

Desert Whine 29th Oct 2005 03:55


The interview was very professional. I say that after having successfully interviewing with Continental, American and Delta
Aren't they all in dire financial circumstances now?

Might not be the best yardstick for measuring professionalism against...!!!

tbaylx 29th Oct 2005 08:14

Riiiight...cause a company that is in bankruptcy protection can't possibly be proffesional, because of course the two are so closely related....:rolleyes:

ironbutt57 29th Oct 2005 08:55

Somehow I find it hard for one to draw parallels between inept board members, and irresponsible CEO's of USA carriers, to the professionalism of the HR, and flt ops departments..."desert whine" two very different situations..:rolleyes:

jollyikarus 29th Oct 2005 16:20

Hey, Desert whine and Co.,

come on now and think a bit!

Some of the world's best airlines were run onto the rocks by their so-called 'Top Management' and certainly NOT by their ground staff, cabin crew or pilots!
In recent history (say, starting about 35 years ago), it began with Juan P. Trippe at the helm of PanAm and many, many more followed.

Another typical example of this can be wittnessed right now in Dubai!
Until not too long ago a really great airline, now being run down by a management which - as per Peter's Priciples' - has reached their level of maximum incompetence!

Peanuts at the head does by no means mean that there are no professionals in the ranks!

As the old Scandinavian saying goes...
'The fish alwas begins to stink from the head.'

Cheers,

;-)

Oh yes....
and what i said above does not only apply to airlines!!!!

Cheers again!

;-)

IShotTheSherif 5th Nov 2005 06:31

Order
 
Hi ME Expat,

You also missed their order for 4(?) A340-600's... Delievery I believe starting in 2006...

Cheers


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