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falcon20 11th May 2002 23:55

Falcon Express - all you need to know about it (threads merged)
 
Does anyone know if they have any recent plans for hiring. And what kind of requirements are they looking for .

JoeCo 12th May 2002 11:37

Maybe a web address aswell if anyone out there knows it.

betavalve 18th May 2002 17:15

Hey guys

I heard that there will be some hiring soon but just making contact is pretty tough. I've been trying to get in for a while but with no luck yet. I've got a couple of mates who used to fly there who say I'm wasting my time. They reakon the mighty Falcon Express is going downhill very fast and that management doesent have a clue. Sounds like a normal company to me. I heard they are looking at a couple more crews by next couple of months. We'll see. I'll try to find out more.

Requirements are 500 total and 300 multy but with a B190 type, or ATR 42 type. Not sure about the ATR though. No website.
Someone said a lot of instructing time would help - who knows. Good luck

falcon20 19th May 2002 01:09

thanks for the info betavalve. Let us know if you hear anything else please especially about them going under!

Tonto Kowalski 19th May 2002 13:32

Betavalve - your couple of mates are right on the money! Anyone looking to apply would be better off saving the money spent on faxing a CV or making a phone call. Sad but true. Latest word is that the beginning...of the end...has now commenced.
Having said this, either 4000+ hours instructing in singles (preferably Piper) or following the teachings of the prophet seems to have been of great help to recent hires.

Misty Air 19th May 2002 21:35

It's a shame that FECA is going down the tubes,Middle Eastern teachings are are not air-user friendly :D

betavalve 20th May 2002 13:19

Yeah not too sure about there financial position but the pilot moral is apparently going completely down the tubes. I heard now that it is true to be hired you need to be Dubai resident and that it seems to be causing friction amongst the expat pilots. I'd prefer to have the chance to see that for myself. I heard the Chief Pilot there has a hidden agenda.
Also was just told that ATR type wont help, but they have plans for a couple more. Still sounds like worth the effort to me. Good tax free salary in a nice place.

Ravensdale 20th May 2002 13:26

Going under?? Last I heard jets were on the way - maybe some of the Falcon boys will get a shot at Emirates after all. Its only the beginning...

JoeCo 21st May 2002 05:46

With ATR's on the way, wouldn't that free up some spots lower down on the totem pole?? ie. the 1900???

Why is moral so bad at a company that is expanding? Maybe I'm thinking with my arse again, but doesn't more planes equal more opportunities, hence more moral??

But then again, what do I know.

spinalcompression 21st May 2002 07:08

sounds like someone is thinking JoeCo, however have heard that the expat wage and working conditions throughout the middle east isn't as good as it used to be with the cost of living there increasing, my guess with no unions aloud in the middle east moral can easily drop if management aren't communicating with the flock. A problem which is growing in all areas of industry in the middle east especially aviation.

falcon20 21st May 2002 22:04

Maybe I am missing something guys but why is instructing time on singles desirable by Falcon Express ?

JoeCo 24th May 2002 08:26

That's a damb good question falcon20, I couldn't figure that out either. Especially the part about that time being specific to a Piper?? I know that the flight school at DXB runs Pipers, maybe it's something to do with that?? Me, I don't know.

betavalve 26th May 2002 07:05

Did a bit more research and it seems that Falcon Express has had a tendancy in the past year or so only to hire guys locally available and trained through the Emirates Flying school. There have been a few exceptions but not many. There are three pilots in Falcon who are previous Chief Flying Instructors there. Obviously then the standards must be very high. Perhaps these guys are better suited to the flying environment of the region.
Either way it seems unfair that other qualified (like myself) cant get a look in.

I guess the old boys network is in action everywhere.

Ravensdale 26th May 2002 07:08

Yep - Obviously!!:confused:

betavalve 27th May 2002 08:23

What is the problem at Falcon??? A lot of negativity coming from a company that seems to be a time builders dream - lots of night turboprop hours, expanding company, nice place not to mention the unbelievable salary. But all I hear is stuff about bad moral and unhappy pilots. You guys need to get in the real world. Something must be really pi**ing you guys off big time.

What gives????

haselled 28th May 2002 09:25

Just exactly how unbelievable is the salary to which you refer??? I'm intrigued!!

Ravensdale 29th May 2002 06:46

Not that unbelievable. Looks good compared to some places though but the cost of living is a good leveler.

As for poor moral - I think spinalcomppression had it right - management not communicating with the flock.

paddle 31st May 2002 08:05

Not sure what the deal is with the Emirates flying school guys? They certainly have nothing to do with Emirates Airlines. From what I have read here in the past, these guys do have thousands of hours of piper time and still can't fly! Is that true? Why would you hire inexperienced and incompetent pilots when there are so many experienced guys out there. :rolleyes:

betavalve 1st Jun 2002 06:49

I guess it must be cheaper to hire the local guys although I heard they arent even Emirates nationals. As for flying skills dodging one cloud a year cant be too tough - try them out in Darwin for a season!!

weewillywonker 1st Jun 2002 12:42

There's more to flying than dodging clouds pal.


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