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Old 11th Sep 2022, 09:30
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Willing to leave LHS for RHS qatar/emirates

Hello everyone,

Im a stupid captain who did the upgrade in a major european airline. Dont ask why i am stupid, just think twice before you tell us how bad management is in qatar and/or emirates...
​​​​​​Anyway,
can you get for example 4 days off in a row and put a week of anual leave also together? Can I split the 42 days in week blocks or its not possible?
In days off can I go home or do I need permission from the company to leave the country?
I heared different stories..

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Old 11th Sep 2022, 11:01
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  • Yes you can
  • Yes you can.
  • No you don't need permission.
One piece of advice , don't listen to the "different stories" PREIOD
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Old 11th Sep 2022, 12:33
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Originally Posted by maskara
Hello everyone,

Im a stupid captain who did the upgrade in a major european airline. Dont ask why i am stupid, just think twice before you tell us how bad management is in qatar and/or emirates...
​​​​​​Anyway,
can you get for example 4 days off in a row and put a week of anual leave also together? Can I split the 42 days in week blocks or its not possible?
In days off can I go home or do I need permission from the company to leave the country?
I heared different stories..
in ek you cannot put 4 days off together with leave
in ek you also won’t get 42 days leave splittend into small pieces (like week junks) granted
you don’t need permission but to fill a off base form more or less telling them where you are and there is a rule off being acclimatized for you next duty requiring you being back the one night before the next duty

this was valid pre pandemic and can’t recall an changes to that

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Old 11th Sep 2022, 12:47
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Did you mean leaving LHS for RHS QR/EK?
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Old 11th Sep 2022, 13:28
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Why would someone leave an European carrier with rights and laws and join any ME outfit with stupid rules and regulations that make your life a living hell??? Money ain’t everything, quality of life should count too. And quality of life you won’t have for sure in the ME as a flying zombie…
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Old 11th Sep 2022, 14:21
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Originally Posted by White Sausage
Why would someone leave an European carrier with rights and laws and join any ME outfit with stupid rules and regulations that make your life a living hell??? Money ain’t everything, quality of life should count too. And quality of life you won’t have for sure in the ME as a flying zombie…
Probably you were employed in europe in a flag carrier and you believe there are rights and laws that companies do follow..
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Originally Posted by Mgggpilot
  • Yes you can
  • Yes you can.
  • No you don't need permission.
One piece of advice , don't listen to the "different stories" PREIOD
More like: re QR
​​​​​​. Maybe
​​​​​​. Yes but expect to work 90+ hrs in the remaining 22 days of the month in which 1 week is lve
​​​​​​. No you don't need permission

Cheers
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Old 11th Sep 2022, 15:21
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Originally Posted by 777JockeyIN
Did you mean leaving LHS for RHS QR/EK?
To be fair the word 'stupid' was used twice...
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It sounds like the OP is planning on trying to commute. If that is the case, forget it. It is almost impossible at any ME airline and the stress will kill you.
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Originally Posted by BigGeordie
It sounds like the OP is planning on trying to commute. If that is the case, forget it. It is almost impossible at any ME airline and the stress will kill you.
Not commute but go home every two months for a week or 10 days. Stress for going home why?
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Originally Posted by maskara
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can you get for example 4 days off in a row and put a week of anual leave also together? Can I split the 42 days in week blocks or its not possible?
In days off can I go home or do I need permission from the company to leave the country?
I heared different stories..
Yes , 4 days off in a row and can add leave to that as well. Emirates always roaster you a good four days off before leave and usually 2/3 days after leave off to break you in gently . They nearly always make sure your sims are prior to your leave also , and they tend to avoid ULRs always straight after leave .

Days off are completely your own, Emirates will never change these , contact you , expect you to do online modules or track you when using their staff travel and e gate . Days off are taken very seriously here. They are very understanding about people seeing their families in their home country and make this a priority.

Your family’s happiness is their number 1 priority and if you want small tweaks to any issue no matter how large or small , they are always very accommodating to any such requests, usually going above and beyond to put things right asap for you.


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That's the best post ever Nimrodjoe. PMSL.
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Originally Posted by White Sausage
Why would someone leave an European carrier with rights and laws and join any ME outfit with stupid rules and regulations that make your life a living hell??? Money ain’t everything, quality of life should count too. And quality of life you won’t have for sure in the ME as a flying zombie…
i don't see quality of life in Europe anymore
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Originally Posted by nimrodjoe
Yes , 4 days off in a row and can add leave to that as well. Emirates always roaster you a good four days off before leave and usually 2/3 days after leave off to break you in gently . They nearly always make sure your sims are prior to your leave also , and they tend to avoid ULRs always straight after leave .

Days off are completely your own, Emirates will never change these , contact you , expect you to do online modules or track you when using their staff travel and e gate . Days off are taken very seriously here. They are very understanding about people seeing their families in their home country and make this a priority.

Your family’s happiness is their number 1 priority and if you want small tweaks to any issue no matter how large or small , they are always very accommodating to any such requests, usually going above and beyond to put things right asap for you.
i love that bright shinning sun over an idealistic world which needs to be invented first.
man’s don’t forget this accommodating absolute no punishment culture.
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Old 12th Sep 2022, 10:53
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Originally Posted by svp
i don't see quality of life in Europe anymore
I fully agree with you! Everyone is ready to point the finger at ME for rights ECC ECC... I'm currently working in the EU I can guarantee its worst

If you get a chance to go to the Middle East, don't think twice.
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EU is really bad and so is the UK. Scotland even wants to leave that.

I hate to have to say it as a Welshman, but those places above are just oppressive and corrupt. Ireland is worse yet, couldn’t even get a pint of doom bar last month in Dublin. Serving in 500ml glasses. WTF ? Completely unacceptable as they still charged the same price.

Things can’t get any worse. The cost of living in the west will plunge them back to the 19th century. On a heathrow layover recently I saw people back riding penny-farthings and the hotel now uses dial up internet again .

Escape to Middle East, Asia or Africa and be liberated!!!




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Originally Posted by Skyfl410
I fully agree with you! Everyone is ready to point the finger at ME for rights ECC ECC... I'm currently working in the EU I can guarantee its worst

If you get a chance to go to the Middle East, don't think twice.
Yes, go to the ME, they are waiting for people like you. Don’t listen to the people who live or used to live there, what do they know. You know much better 🤦‍♂️
Meanwhile I’m enjoying my 4-6 off days in a row after every trip while being protected by laws and civilization…
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Originally Posted by maskara
Not commute but go home every two months for a week or 10 days. Stress for going home why?
It will never work …and also remember if you get sick, and I mean long term sick ( let’s say you break your leg and you are to be in plaster for 9 weeks), you can’t go just go home because you need help to get around. You need permission from EK to leave Dubai. EK control your life.
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It will never work …and also remember if you get sick, and I mean long term sick ( let’s say you break your leg and you are to be in plaster for 9 weeks), you can’t go just go home because you need help to get around. You need permission from EK to leave Dubai. EK control your life.
Sorry I don't understand when I have anual leave and there is no permission required to go home, why can't I do.
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Originally Posted by SOPS
It will never work …and also remember if you get sick, and I mean long term sick ( let’s say you break your leg and you are to be in plaster for 9 weeks), you can’t go just go home because you need help to get around. You need permission from EK to leave Dubai. EK control your life.
And unfortunately enough, if u have to go to the ER it easily can happen that the persons on the front desk tells u, that need a referral from an ek clinic doctor first, otherwise you have to bring your credit card with you going into ER. - and before saying something it exactly happened that way to myself.
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