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Joining Qatar airways (Master thread)-2

Old 22nd Feb 2022, 09:40
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Originally Posted by 3cy3D
Same here Madd, nothing yet. Same qualifications with you..
It seems they're swamped with Boeing guys as the shortage there is severe. Can't do anything but wait. Let's all keep each other posted if anything happens.
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Old 22nd Feb 2022, 15:36
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I also have more or less the same experience. I am currently flying A330..
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Old 24th Feb 2022, 19:36
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Originally Posted by BrisbaneDoha
A small warning the company is now bonding nearly every new joiner. If you flew 787 before and you join the company on 777 you'll be bonded for 50000usd for 3 years. You'll be thus be required to stay 3 years flying 150h/month and up to 1800h duty a year, most of it by night.
As for a hiring update, significant hiring going on at the moment, expansion of network/fleet (ex Cathay 777) together with shortage of crew. Around 50 pilots leaving per month with a peak of resignation around summer expected due pilots waiting for schools to finish before leaving Qatar for good.
Company is trying to hide as much as possible illegal ftl.

Think long before you join...All the articles you read on reuters etc are true. Whatever you read is just the tip of the sanddune!
For those deciding to join, best of luck you have been warned!
Iím seeing these bonds more and more nowadays, being a pilot does not seem that far away from being a modern day slave now.
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Old 27th Feb 2022, 14:09
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Boeing rated First officers

Good day everyone! Hope everyone is doing well.

Just want to ask, does anyone receive any reply from them since the day they posted? Any feedback from anyone of you is much appreciated 🙏
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Old 27th Feb 2022, 18:10
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Originally Posted by roll_over
Iím seeing these bonds more and more nowadays, being a pilot does not seem that far away from being a modern day slave now.
Totally agree ! HR of every airline is exploiting pilots like anything now. Except in few civilised countries.
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Old 28th Feb 2022, 09:35
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Latest F/O pay

Did anyone get the latest FO pay on the T7 or the 787
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Old 28th Feb 2022, 12:15
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Significant hiring going on these days. People are both Airbus and Boeing rated.
Still alot of resignations also due to lack of seeing family in Doha and horrible fatigue . Above 120 block hours 777 per month, 787/350 around the 100/month. 7-8 days off a month, 4 days block off possible 1x a month unless you have leave planned.
Salary basic 22500 Qar for F/O. Equal for all fleets. Housing 13000, expect company accommodation for starters. Prices for housing have gone up alot due to world cup and contracts are not renewed due to leased for fifa thus company housing might not be that bad at the moment.
Company believes it's doing great and gives above minimum required days off, mass resignations over summer expected together with ramp up of flights will prove interesting.
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Old 1st Mar 2022, 06:10
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What kind of productivity pay are you looking at on 100 hours? Also, is the basic based on doing up to a certain hours threshold?
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Old 1st Mar 2022, 08:04
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How much of that 120 block will be paid for ? say 80?
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Old 1st Mar 2022, 16:42
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Originally Posted by BrisbaneDoha
Significant hiring going on these days. People are both Airbus and Boeing rated.
Still alot of resignations also due to lack of seeing family in Doha and horrible fatigue . Above 120 block hours 777 per month, 787/350 around the 100/month. 7-8 days off a month, 4 days block off possible 1x a month unless you have leave planned.
Salary basic 22500 Qar for F/O. Equal for all fleets. Housing 13000, expect company accommodation for starters. Prices for housing have gone up alot due to world cup and contracts are not renewed due to leased for fifa thus company housing might not be that bad at the moment.
Company believes it's doing great and gives above minimum required days off, mass resignations over summer expected together with ramp up of flights will prove interesting.
Is this without any extras? Flying hours I mean. Is that the basic?
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Old 1st Mar 2022, 21:16
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Originally Posted by TheColonel
Sure - It was about 40min long - and only competency based questions. Tell me about a time you had an argument with a collegue, needed to take command, made a quick decision etc. Very friendly and relaxed atmosphere. They arent there to try and catch you out.

Good luck!
Thanks a lot for your help, I passed the PSA, now I am invited to DOHA for the ATPL, interview and the SIM check (within 3 weeks).
do you have any feedbacks about the assessment in DOHA? that may help me a lot.
thanks
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Old 2nd Mar 2022, 10:20
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achraf2 make sure you have all logbooks, stamps and certificates available or you wont even go to the interview. 70% threshold for ATPL or be sent back to hotel as well.

Pay related questions : Basic salary is basic salary, from day 1, irrespective of hours flown.
Latest figures for block hours in the 100QAR for FO and 140QAR for CPT. Bunktime and DH is now again paid (but dont ask how the FTL are computed, no one knows it seems).

For 100H Block time:
22.500+10.000+1500 = 34.000QAR more or less 9.300USD (year 1 FO)
32.500+14.000+1500 = 48.000QAR more or less 13.100USD (year 1 CPT)

You can either get this 5-10% basic salary contribution to savings plan with company matching 10%, or a yearly-service kind of 13th month bonus.

Triple crew really exhausted and 787/350 also being stretched, only 320 guys seems to have a fairly good roster at the moment, lot of fleet change these days especially 320>350>380 and also some Airbus to 777 (probably to fight the very high attrition on triple fleet).

Accommodation is good, with lot of amenities available on the compound, utilities paid for. Don’t expect to be free from company accommodation in the near future. Once out of accommodation, allowance is 14.500QAR for FO and 16.500QAR for CPT (housing allowance+utilities).
Housing in the 7-12K QAR range in Doha depending your standard.
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Old 2nd Mar 2022, 10:51
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How was the online PSA guys? Easy / Medium / Hard?
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Old 2nd Mar 2022, 15:50
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I did the psa last week.. does anyone know how long it takes to proceed to the next stage if successful? Good luck to all
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Old 3rd Mar 2022, 09:37
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Originally Posted by achraf2
Thanks a lot for your help, I passed the PSA, now I am invited to DOHA for the ATPL, interview and the SIM check (within 3 weeks).
do you have any feedbacks about the assessment in DOHA? that may help me a lot.
thanks
Achraf,
When you say you cleared he PSA, do you mean the 2 online assessments AND the online web interview?
if so, could you please let me know how much gap between the online assessments and the online interview please ?
Thanks again.
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Old 4th Mar 2022, 07:22
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Hello guys, does anyone know what kind of questions do we have during the online interview? Only basic HR questions or some "Tell me about a time questions" as well? Thanks! You can DM me if you want.
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Old 4th Mar 2022, 08:47
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The 1000h on type requirement for F/Os Boeing is non negotiable? Iíve got 600 ish on the 737 and since I work cargo it will take me atleast 1,5 years to get to 1000h.

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Old 4th Mar 2022, 09:02
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Yes, and off course that's bare minimum. Most of the applicants are heavily experienced.
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Old 4th Mar 2022, 11:30
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Originally Posted by 777JockeyIN
Yes, and off course that's bare minimum. Most of the applicants are heavily experienced.
experience is a funny thing , Iíve done short 40 min to 1.20 sectors all my life in rough conditions , night time .. but hey no one cares itís just the flight time that counts , even if you are sleeping across the Atlantic Ocean and you land 5 times per month

but hey thatís a discussion for a different arena.

Thanks for the info.
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Old 4th Mar 2022, 11:39
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Originally Posted by Hublot
experience is a funny thing , Iíve done short 40 min to 1.20 sectors all my life in rough conditions , night time .. but hey no one cares itís just the flight time that counts , even if you are sleeping across the Atlantic Ocean and you land 5 times per month

but hey thatís a discussion for a different arena.

Thanks for the info.
In Qatar Airways the time sleeping isn't counted...
Thus won't add a single hour to your logbook.
You'll fly longhaul but log short haul similar to your job, also at night, 50c or -20c, snow or cyclone, cargo or pax, 8000ft elevation. Any mistake or unstable approach can be your last in the airline.
I'd say just wait another year, the airline will recruit always since the attrition will be high. Your time to join the best airline in the world will come...
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