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Old 13th Oct 2022, 15:26
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Next step after psa

How long does it usually take to get to the next step after the PSA? I completed the PSA 7 days ago and it still says Invited for PSA on my application. What would it change to should I get to proceed?

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Old 21st Oct 2022, 09:12
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Thought I’d chip in for the 320 roster questions. I’m a 320 FO at QR, medium-high seniority on the fleet.

320 roster is ok-ish at the moment, but it heavily depends on what you bid for and, to some extent, your seniority. For me personally, I bid for very specific days off most months, I usually get them (only 1 month this year so far I did not get the days off I requested). On average, FOs get around 8 -10 off days a month. Almost all of these will be in Doha, however, even on 320 fleet, it is possible to have days off down route. It is possible to tie in days off with leave and for me, with leave, since January this year, I have averaged around 15 days off a month.

The bidding and swap systems are both quite good as far as I am aware. You can bid for pretty much anything, easy start/finish, late start/finish, specific flights, destinations, layovers, flights to certain areas of the world (eg. Europe, Africa etc.) and more. Once the roster is published you can advertise and search for swaps if you wish, however, obviously the swaps depend on other flight crew. I won’t go into the swaps, it is what it says on the tin.

how many layovers…? Again, it depends how you bid. BUT, for new joiners you will likely get what we call the “honeymoon period” which is essentially your first 3 months you’ll get the nice layovers in Europe / pretty much whatever you bid for! After this, you will have a hard time getting those layovers again! At the moment though, to be fair, the flights to Europe are mostly used for training, so they are often pre assigned, hence why it is more difficult to get them. For me as well, I don’t fancy jump seating for 4/5 hours with an SO.

Like I said before, I bid for days off, so I don’t get many layovers. If I so, they are to India or Africa. (Some of these are ok, but some are not.) But I have friends who prefer to bid for layovers and they still get maybe 2 or 3 a month to Europe as well.

If you are like me and prefer days off, expect short turnarounds inter-gulf - Saudi, UAE, Iraq etc. with the occasional India and maybe Turkey being the more “exotic turnarounds.”

With everything in, I fly an average of about 60-65 hours a month…I think this is fairly uniform across the fleet.

For Captains, expect very much the same.

Credit where it is due, QR 320 fleet roster is a fairly good one. Lots of variety to choose from and most people I fly with are reasonably happy with their rosters. I have been known to complain in other departments, but roster is generally not one of them.

Hope this helps! Good luck to all taking their assessments and all new joiners etc. Welcome!
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Old 21st Oct 2022, 09:44
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Assessment result

I finished my interview on 30th September but as of now (3 weeks) still received no answer. Has anyone experienced the same thing? My guess is probably due to world cup they hold everything down at the moment
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Old 21st Oct 2022, 20:18
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Originally Posted by CPL27 View Post
Thought I’d chip in for the 320 roster questions. I’m a 320 FO at QR, medium-high seniority on the fleet.

320 roster is ok-ish at the moment, but it heavily depends on what you bid for and, to some extent, your seniority. For me personally, I bid for very specific days off most months, I usually get them (only 1 month this year so far I did not get the days off I requested). On average, FOs get around 8 -10 off days a month. Almost all of these will be in Doha, however, even on 320 fleet, it is possible to have days off down route. It is possible to tie in days off with leave and for me, with leave, since January this year, I have averaged around 15 days off a month.

The bidding and swap systems are both quite good as far as I am aware. You can bid for pretty much anything, easy start/finish, late start/finish, specific flights, destinations, layovers, flights to certain areas of the world (eg. Europe, Africa etc.) and more. Once the roster is published you can advertise and search for swaps if you wish, however, obviously the swaps depend on other flight crew. I won’t go into the swaps, it is what it says on the tin.

how many layovers…? Again, it depends how you bid. BUT, for new joiners you will likely get what we call the “honeymoon period” which is essentially your first 3 months you’ll get the nice layovers in Europe / pretty much whatever you bid for! After this, you will have a hard time getting those layovers again! At the moment though, to be fair, the flights to Europe are mostly used for training, so they are often pre assigned, hence why it is more difficult to get them. For me as well, I don’t fancy jump seating for 4/5 hours with an SO.

Like I said before, I bid for days off, so I don’t get many layovers. If I so, they are to India or Africa. (Some of these are ok, but some are not.) But I have friends who prefer to bid for layovers and they still get maybe 2 or 3 a month to Europe as well.

If you are like me and prefer days off, expect short turnarounds inter-gulf - Saudi, UAE, Iraq etc. with the occasional India and maybe Turkey being the more “exotic turnarounds.”

With everything in, I fly an average of about 60-65 hours a month…I think this is fairly uniform across the fleet.

For Captains, expect very much the same.

Credit where it is due, QR 320 fleet roster is a fairly good one. Lots of variety to choose from and most people I fly with are reasonably happy with their rosters. I have been known to complain in other departments, but roster is generally not one of them.

Hope this helps! Good luck to all taking their assessments and all new joiners etc. Welcome!

Lol !.
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Old 21st Oct 2022, 21:29
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Hey,

May I know if the SO position that you applied is the Cadet Scheme or Direct Entry Second Officer? Also is it available for all nationality?

Thanks
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Old 21st Oct 2022, 22:58
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de fumo in flammam seniority does play some role yes, but with regards to the roster I think only to a small extent.

Ticker1 is there anything you think I said is inaccurate? Please share 😊👍
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Old 22nd Oct 2022, 09:20
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Originally Posted by river.mind View Post
I finished my interview on 30th September but as of now (3 weeks) still received no answer. Has anyone experienced the same thing? My guess is probably due to world cup they hold everything down at the moment
I've been waiting for 6 weeks so far.. and I don't think there's a reason behind this long waiting. It's just the way it is.
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I've been waiting for 6 weeks so far.. and I don't think there's a reason behind this long waiting. It's just the way it is.
Are you type rated?
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Old 22nd Oct 2022, 12:25
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Direct Entry Second Officer.
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Old 22nd Oct 2022, 19:19
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Originally Posted by CPL27 View Post
Thought I’d chip in for the 320 roster questions. I’m a 320 FO at QR, medium-high seniority on the fleet.

320 roster is ok-ish at the moment, but it heavily depends on what you bid for and, to some extent, your seniority. For me personally, I bid for very specific days off most months, I usually get them (only 1 month this year so far I did not get the days off I requested). On average, FOs get around 8 -10 off days a month. Almost all of these will be in Doha, however, even on 320 fleet, it is possible to have days off down route. It is possible to tie in days off with leave and for me, with leave, since January this year, I have averaged around 15 days off a month.

The bidding and swap systems are both quite good as far as I am aware. You can bid for pretty much anything, easy start/finish, late start/finish, specific flights, destinations, layovers, flights to certain areas of the world (eg. Europe, Africa etc.) and more. Once the roster is published you can advertise and search for swaps if you wish, however, obviously the swaps depend on other flight crew. I won’t go into the swaps, it is what it says on the tin.

how many layovers…? Again, it depends how you bid. BUT, for new joiners you will likely get what we call the “honeymoon period” which is essentially your first 3 months you’ll get the nice layovers in Europe / pretty much whatever you bid for! After this, you will have a hard time getting those layovers again! At the moment though, to be fair, the flights to Europe are mostly used for training, so they are often pre assigned, hence why it is more difficult to get them. For me as well, I don’t fancy jump seating for 4/5 hours with an SO.

Like I said before, I bid for days off, so I don’t get many layovers. If I so, they are to India or Africa. (Some of these are ok, but some are not.) But I have friends who prefer to bid for layovers and they still get maybe 2 or 3 a month to Europe as well.

If you are like me and prefer days off, expect short turnarounds inter-gulf - Saudi, UAE, Iraq etc. with the occasional India and maybe Turkey being the more “exotic turnarounds.”

With everything in, I fly an average of about 60-65 hours a month…I think this is fairly uniform across the fleet.

For Captains, expect very much the same.

Credit where it is due, QR 320 fleet roster is a fairly good one. Lots of variety to choose from and most people I fly with are reasonably happy with their rosters. I have been known to complain in other departments, but roster is generally not one of them.

Hope this helps! Good luck to all taking their assessments and all new joiners etc. Welcome!
Thanks for the post, is there a layover allowance that’s given in addition to the salary for nights spent in a hotel? If there is, approx how much is it?

thanks
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Old 23rd Oct 2022, 07:48
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Are you type rated?
No, I'm not type rated. I'm current on the B737
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I've been waiting for 6 weeks so far.. and I don't think there's a reason behind this long waiting. It's just the way it is.
Well thats even longer, and ill be in same situation like you then. What i dont understand is why so bother telling people pass or not. Why they need to hold informing ppl, especially the one who didnt pass, for weeks. Ive heard there was one guy got rejection email 3 weeks later after assessment. Well i hope they will soon let you know your result🤘
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Old 23rd Oct 2022, 12:54
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Originally Posted by CPL27 View Post
Thought I’d chip in for the 320 roster questions. I’m a 320 FO at QR, medium-high seniority on the fleet.

320 roster is ok-ish at the moment, but it heavily depends on what you bid for and, to some extent, your seniority. For me personally, I bid for very specific days off most months, I usually get them (only 1 month this year so far I did not get the days off I requested). On average, FOs get around 8 -10 off days a month. Almost all of these will be in Doha, however, even on 320 fleet, it is possible to have days off down route. It is possible to tie in days off with leave and for me, with leave, since January this year, I have averaged around 15 days off a month.

The bidding and swap systems are both quite good as far as I am aware. You can bid for pretty much anything, easy start/finish, late start/finish, specific flights, destinations, layovers, flights to certain areas of the world (eg. Europe, Africa etc.) and more. Once the roster is published you can advertise and search for swaps if you wish, however, obviously the swaps depend on other flight crew. I won’t go into the swaps, it is what it says on the tin.

how many layovers…? Again, it depends how you bid. BUT, for new joiners you will likely get what we call the “honeymoon period” which is essentially your first 3 months you’ll get the nice layovers in Europe / pretty much whatever you bid for! After this, you will have a hard time getting those layovers again! At the moment though, to be fair, the flights to Europe are mostly used for training, so they are often pre assigned, hence why it is more difficult to get them. For me as well, I don’t fancy jump seating for 4/5 hours with an SO.

Like I said before, I bid for days off, so I don’t get many layovers. If I so, they are to India or Africa. (Some of these are ok, but some are not.) But I have friends who prefer to bid for layovers and they still get maybe 2 or 3 a month to Europe as well.

If you are like me and prefer days off, expect short turnarounds inter-gulf - Saudi, UAE, Iraq etc. with the occasional India and maybe Turkey being the more “exotic turnarounds.”

With everything in, I fly an average of about 60-65 hours a month…I think this is fairly uniform across the fleet.

For Captains, expect very much the same.

Credit where it is due, QR 320 fleet roster is a fairly good one. Lots of variety to choose from and most people I fly with are reasonably happy with their rosters. I have been known to complain in other departments, but roster is generally not one of them.

Hope this helps! Good luck to all taking their assessments and all new joiners etc. Welcome!
I don’t believe you are only flying 65 hours a month.
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Old 23rd Oct 2022, 16:14
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I don’t believe you are only flying 65 hours a month.
Whether you believe it or not, it’s still true 😂 (actually it is closer to 60hrs / month on average)

boeingbusdriver regarding layover allowances; yes we get allowances for breakfast, lunch and dinner and the allowance varies depending on city and hotel. It can vary from anywhere between 80qr for a day to as much as 550qr for a day. Everywhere is different.
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Old 24th Oct 2022, 16:49
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Hi Guys,

I did the assessment in Doha late September, Boeing rated FO +3500h.

My Application Status changed to "Passed Assesments", around 2 weeks ago. But I haven't heard a thing from them, no call or automatic email telling me that I have passed.

Does Passed Assessments mean that interivew is Successful or not? A bit worried by the lack of news cause it's been 2 weeks I got this change on the online portal.

Any insider info can clarify?

Regards.
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Old 24th Oct 2022, 17:25
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I guess they're currently too busy with the world cup. Know a guy who passed the interview last month and being told that the closest date of joining is, maybe, January 2023.
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Old 25th Oct 2022, 12:06
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6 months from first application date.
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Old 28th Oct 2022, 10:02
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Originally Posted by CPL27 View Post
Whether you believe it or not, it’s still true 😂 (actually it is closer to 60hrs / month on average)

boeingbusdriver regarding layover allowances; yes we get allowances for breakfast, lunch and dinner and the allowance varies depending on city and hotel. It can vary from anywhere between 80qr for a day to as much as 550qr for a day. Everywhere is different.

thank you
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Old 31st Oct 2022, 20:33
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Has any one been invited for the assessment on the 13th November?
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Old 2nd Nov 2022, 02:46
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Has any one been invited for the assessment on the 13th November?
I am, waiting for Glenda's email update.
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