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Old 27th Oct 2021, 12:27
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Actually not. If they take an external guy, and the redundant guy is still not given a job, he is not coming back. The external guy will not get command ahead of the guys already here. The only accelerated command you will see will be the handful of Captains coming back as F/O......for the rest, there are plenty of experienced F/O so I don't see any accelerated command for outsiders.
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Old 28th Oct 2021, 06:23
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sorry for me misleading expression.
what I meant was a FO having been there for 5 plus years, short before an upgrade and receiving the good news of traveling home.
now the same guy may come back, at the and of the list, having all the experience for a command, will be listed for the same behind a accelerated command guy with min narrow body command time, starting all over again. And again we see the consequences of a clear communication from the employer with it’s possible future stuff, I regards to transport a clear picture of what to expect. EK is expert to cover it self in mystery.

If they don’t take the announced 600 pilots purely out of the redundant, they officially count more than a 1000 pilots as bad apples. And it looks like it will be that way otherwise those 600 would have already a call back and more information would be spread.

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Old 28th Oct 2021, 09:01
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A friend told me that they started to send emails to externals to complete the applications. Sending credentials for a job
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Old 28th Oct 2021, 09:34
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you may have a point. It doesn’t say much of their recruiting and training departments that emirates consider a quarter of their pilots crap.
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Old 28th Oct 2021, 09:46
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Logistically between the HK gov and CX rostering, it’ll be virtually impossible to attend the interview without quitting CX or accepting a Missed Duty violation
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Old 28th Oct 2021, 11:51
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Realistically ... are they gonna need 777 pilots soon or not?
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Old 28th Oct 2021, 12:42
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Does Emirates have a reserve schedule? At the major legacy I work at we have a long call and short call. And depending on your seniority, you may go weeks without flying.
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Old 28th Oct 2021, 14:03
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My mate got that email last week. He is 777 rated and they asked him what hours he has done in the last year and what his notice period is.
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Old 28th Oct 2021, 14:17
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The arrogance of CX pilots that they think they can leave their well paid job and walk into another just because of their believed exceptionalism. Meanwhile hundreds of ex EK pilots are still waiting to get back to work. Not forgetting the hundreds of guys under training who were first to go and are now coming up to 2 years out of work. They weren't even there long enough to get any black marks against their name.
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Old 28th Oct 2021, 14:24
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Whoa buddy! I think you’re pointing your pistol at the wrong people. It’s not the CX guy’s fault that EK are hiring even though they have 1000 of their own pilots available. He’s just doing what’s good for him.
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Old 28th Oct 2021, 14:31
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My buddy’s application states shortlisted!
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Old 28th Oct 2021, 14:35
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I've read it on here and on Fragrant Harbor plenty of times. I am in HK so over hear it or receive it directly plenty of times. I'm just sick of the non-stop complaining when some of us see our flying career gradually disappear.

Sorry, rant over.
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Old 28th Oct 2021, 17:07
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Isnt cathay working on single pilot ops on the 350
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Old 28th Oct 2021, 20:20
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Emirates IS NOT HIRING ... the fact that some of your friends got "shortlisted" doesn't mean they gonna walk ahead of all the people still to come back...

they just creating a holding pool for when they need IT SAYS FUTURE OPORTUNITIES IN THE JOB APPLICATION
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Old 29th Oct 2021, 00:54
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You’re right, the holding pool is there for when things ramp up, they might as well re-title it to “expressions of interest”.

It’s not really a job opportunity but more of an indication to management that people are interested and therefore a reduction in conditions of service will probably be acceptable.

CX did it in 2018 and I guess EK is looking at doing the same.

For example 1000 people applied based on the current COS as advertised, EK lowers the COS by 30%, how many pilots will still be interested? Probably not the 1000 people waiting but still enough for them to keep the show going.
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Old 29th Oct 2021, 01:00
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It’s more of a strategic move with Airbus rather than anything else. LH did the same many years ago with Airbus and they have a system in place (but never utilised it) for single pilot ops.

Airbus is just chasing data to prove to EASA it can maintain safe operations with only one pilot in the flight deck
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Old 29th Oct 2021, 02:11
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  1. They will have planes on the ground in 6 months time because of lack of pilots !
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Old 29th Oct 2021, 09:02
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totally agree !

I know people who used to say “ I would never go there “ and now they all asking me ohh look they calling me help me with process … it’s all a show

EK is just testing see how many people are willing to join them … if you see that 3 or 4 k people want to join you, you can start playing with conditions , requirements etc …

it is a shame but it’s what it is … cycle goes up and down guys ! Our time will come again!

and yea they should re name the application but they like to play with peoples life / plans / family etc
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Old 30th Oct 2021, 03:47
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The market now belongs to the employers, accept the reality. This will go on for another 2-3 years. Do not expect the same environment when aviation was so boom.... Business is business. No one cares about ethic or anything, forget about the lavender field you guys once were running in.
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Old 30th Oct 2021, 14:14
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This is exactly what it says on EK careers website. You "register" interest. Then they tell you. Sorry but we're currently doing recalls then we'll get back to you but please standby. Then this month this turned into a "Please provide us with your documents".
I think they'll hire externally faster then you think.
Those birds don't pay themselves sitting on the ground and they're trying to lead the fight back against Covid!
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