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Old 17th Sep 2021, 11:16
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I don’t want to sound paranoid ( I have my tin foil hat on as I type this).. but seriously.. Emirates can track almost everything you do. You are in their medical system, you live in their house, your alcohol licence is issued by them, as is your drivers license. I could go on.. but my point is.. if you are sitting at home ( and I really hope home is home), and wondering why you have not had a recall.. you don’t know what ‘data matrix’ they are using.
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Old 17th Sep 2021, 12:22
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If that's the case, I and many others would've been arrested a long time ago...
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Old 17th Sep 2021, 17:32
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Originally Posted by SOPS
your alcohol licence is issued by them
No it isn't... That changed quite a while ago! Besides, you can buy booze in any other Emirate no problem - except Sharjah of course

Don't recall my Drivers Licence coming from HQ either!
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Old 17th Sep 2021, 21:00
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Who owns MMI? Lol . To think they don't have access to all data ( vpn excluded ) you are naive. Almost everything is tied to your visa/ uae id. If you have ever been involved with the Dubai police ( CID) you would understand. "Arrested a long time ago " step lightly !
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Old 18th Sep 2021, 05:15
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I didn't say they didn't have access to all data. Show me any country in the world that doesn't now. MMI does not 'issue' your booze licence. You apply via them and it is issued by Dubai Police! That's probably why I'm still waiting for my new one two months after applying! On the booze front I believe a new federal law from AD has decreed that booze licences will no longer be needed anywhere in the UAE - it just remains to be seen how long before Dubai complies!

As for the medical system I know several people here who get treatment or consultations outside of the EK medical system!
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Old 18th Sep 2021, 07:13
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But still the bill goes to EK medical benefits and as the bill arrives it leaves a picture of the treatment and a reverse conclusion of the problem as much of the things are standarized.
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Old 19th Sep 2021, 04:10
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Not if you have private health insurance.
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Old 19th Sep 2021, 05:13
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So EK is data driven - so what?

Are you concerned that they have the correct information and might make an accurate assessment of their needs that doesn't suit some?
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Old 19th Sep 2021, 06:48
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True, until you need sick leave than you have to present your case to a EK doctor and that’s the point where confidential data aren’t confidential anymore.
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Old 20th Sep 2021, 07:16
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They kick you to the curb and ask you to come back.

Why would anyone rejoin?

Yadda. Yadda. Yadda. I know the answer already.
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Old 20th Sep 2021, 07:34
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It is a problem - just recently there is a case where someones medical information went into somebodies hands leading to the exit door in avoidance of approving longer needed sick leave.
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Old 20th Sep 2021, 22:34
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Fleet and HR love to convey the impression that they know all there is to know about us but as ex-pat airlines go, their access to personal information is limited compared to other ex-pat airlines in the region.

Some other operators are far closer connected to the likes of banks and immigration than EK are. If you donít book your ticket using TRIPS, the company has no easy way to determine if you are in or out of the UAE. The company does not have direct access to immigration records, although they would probably want us to think that they do!

An EK AME (who has since left for greener pastures) advised me to always try and seek specialist advice and treatment outside of the company medical insurance scheme, where possible. Granted it will be close to impossible with major conditions but I felt it spoke volumes as to how he viewed patient confidentiality at EK.
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Old 21st Sep 2021, 06:55
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Hardly surprising people are so nervous of the EK medical system when it was used to such good effect to cull the herd at the beginning of the pandemic. Would anyone in their right mind trust them now?
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Old 21st Sep 2021, 08:41
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Near the start of the pandemic, I had a false positive test after returning from a duty trip. We were instructed to login into the government health website to check our positive/negative results prior to the next flight. When I checked, it said positive but gave no dates or other details. I informed fleet that I couldn’t do my duty the next morning and that I had no specific details about the test result. 20 minutes later fleet called me back and told me the details. They certainly can get details from the government health department when they want to.
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Old 21st Sep 2021, 12:37
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And your movements when traveling in/out and around the country .
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Old 22nd Sep 2021, 05:05
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Interesting thread. EK recalling people back is a positive sign of improvement in the region. But people still managed to turn it into a human rights discussion. If you need a job, take anything they offer, if you don't move on and someone else will take. It is very simple...
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Old 22nd Sep 2021, 06:42
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agree with Eric. Its all down to choices one may have. If you need a FLYING job this is a very positive sign and whoever accepted the offer made to him/her will make it work!
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Old 22nd Sep 2021, 16:04
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How many people have been called back?
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Old 22nd Sep 2021, 19:57
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It is positive news , I hope they do not call back or hire people like their sister ship. Flydubai have been not paying salary’s for up to 3 months no. People not layer off but now the company have decided it’s too expensive to pay salaries.
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Old 22nd Sep 2021, 20:45
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No one from the first 600 if that's what you're alluding to! And it's unlikely that any of them will get recalled! Let's face it, whether you like it or not, the first culling was the Fleet's list and then the 'magical matrix'...
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