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Old 2nd Oct 2020, 05:59
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Someone has the courage to start reining Emirates In!

DOT Fines Emirates $400,000 For Flying Over Iran - Simple Flying - https://simpleflying.com/emirates-iran-dot-fine/
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Old 2nd Oct 2020, 08:18
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EK made a mistake. They paid a big fine with good grace and humility. So far so uninteresting.

Your chosen thread title, however, is idiotic.
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Old 2nd Oct 2020, 10:29
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Agreed, they just made a mistake. We all do. There are far far worse things they have deliberately done recently.
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To put it into context, I suspect it will be a drop in the ocean compared to the cash that will have been haemorrhaged so far this year.
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We live in hope, that Emirates goes down the swanny, where it belongs.
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Old 2nd Oct 2020, 22:39
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Not so fast! Lots of good people need that job.
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Old 3rd Oct 2020, 14:34
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Originally Posted by Dropp the Pilot
EK made a mistake. They paid a big fine with good grace and humility. So far so uninteresting.

Your chosen thread title, however, is idiotic.
They may have made a mistake alright! They have made and continue to make many mistakes, the issue is, most of which they are not made accountable for and if you work or have worked there and you are not an idiot yourself you will know... Don't come here defending EK when someone decides to slap them on the wrist for their "mistake (s)." Have you equally and readily defended your colleagues who have made genuine mistakes in a simulator or on the line at EK but were never given a fair opportunity to defend themselves with "good grace and humility"? Do you think sacking people who worked their backsides off for this company and so became poorly is a defendable mistake as well? Mate get your head out of your A##...
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Old 5th Oct 2020, 07:43
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Thank you

Thank you
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Old 5th Oct 2020, 15:24
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Hopefully you are not anywhere the point end of any aircraft with proximity to any of the controls or operating systems. We get it that times are tough, diabolical and its a sh1t storm out there. Hundreds of thousands all over are impacted but rants like this wont solve it. Try professional help, may be start with a plumber and have his pull your head out of where it is now
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Maybe they weigh up which is the least expensive?
Operate through Iran, cope a fine.
Operate around Iran and see the cost of the flight go up accordingly.

They have done it in Sydney, breaching curfew. Cheaper to pay a fine than have 450 punters + crew stranded in an airport at midnight and most missing connections.
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in civilized countries you can’t breach such regulations on purpose repeatedly - if companies do so they are risking the permit to fly in and out to that particular station or FIR
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With that argument in mind, makes Australia an uncivilized country. They've accepted this practice due to the far benefitting results, alternative would be to lose the endless moolah that EK or whoever is bringing into their"uncivilzed land's economy"..

There's always a price for everything, as EK has proven time and time again..
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Old 6th Oct 2020, 09:59
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Well quite frankly this seems more like a clerical mistake than some odious plan to screw the expats (which seems the main line of complaining here)...

There are lots a valid complains to be had about Emirates but this one seems rather minor.

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Old 6th Oct 2020, 12:57
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When did that fine occur? Emirates has been flying over Iran since inception.

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19 days in July last year .
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Old 11th Oct 2020, 15:43
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EK colleagues are an endangered species.
I hear that the place is more toxic than ever.
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EK2501 is between Shiraz and Isfahan northbound as I write this at 0230Z Monday 12th, so the issue has clearly been resolved, whatever it was.
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And EK2501 is NOT a JetBlue Codeshare flight, which was the reason for the fine! It pays to actually read beyond the headline..... Pesky details!
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Old 12th Oct 2020, 05:43
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Vthokie2 is correct. Only the JetBlue codeshare flights are banned by the US DOT from Iran overflights; JFK, IAD, FLL, BOS off the top of my head. The others such as the West Coasters can overfly Iran no problem....

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Old 13th Oct 2020, 10:11
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What's more, maybe EK was trying to be clever, routing code share flights over Iran when no JetBlue passengers were physically on board. On the surface, that seems reasonable, except the law said no seats can be 'offered for sale' on flights transiting Iranian airspace, so in arrears the US government decides to make an example of it. It's really not the big deal that the thread starter took it for, but it does show the layers of subtleties tied up in these code sharing arrangements.
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