Oman redundancies
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Oman Air has terrminated around 200 pilots and hundreds of cabin crew.
All terminated pilots are expats, locals are safe.
All expats in the company are on a 80% salary cut while locals have a reduction from 0 to 20% depending on their basic salary.
Airport is still close here and many pilots wait for the opening to leave the country, having to live here with family on 20% pay is not easy.
Oman Air didn't pay contractual school fees neither, maybe they will, maybe they won't, nobody knows as communication is reduced to almost zero.
All terminated pilots are expats, locals are safe.
All expats in the company are on a 80% salary cut while locals have a reduction from 0 to 20% depending on their basic salary.
Airport is still close here and many pilots wait for the opening to leave the country, having to live here with family on 20% pay is not easy.
Oman Air didn't pay contractual school fees neither, maybe they will, maybe they won't, nobody knows as communication is reduced to almost zero.
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Newbie fibs
Topass737: If you are going to make a statement with figures, percentages and grievances, at least have the courtesy of not fabricating and making it sound ever so bad for expats.
First off, it's up to 30% salary deductions for locals and there were old skippers given early retirement too.
That 80% cut has been helped out by loan repayment deferrals, which I belive Oman air worked it out with local banks, granted there were some teething hiccups, but nonetheless was achieved.
The way it was carried out was far more humane and predictable in the sense all over 60s and all that were in the company less than 2 years.
The second wave went yet again to juniority and pilots with high sickness, warning letters and issues with their flying.
No one is safe as you eloquently put it. The whole world is suffering economically, healthily, mentally etc etc
Being shown the door first, is a natural process of elimination when it comes to non-local staff.
Remember all the extra perks that were given all these decades to non locals.
Balanced? Maybe, maybe not..
Either way, we're all in this crazy ride together.
Support one another, rather than start turning nasty, rude, conceited, hateful and talking crap of one's
previous employer wherever that may be.
First off, it's up to 30% salary deductions for locals and there were old skippers given early retirement too.
That 80% cut has been helped out by loan repayment deferrals, which I belive Oman air worked it out with local banks, granted there were some teething hiccups, but nonetheless was achieved.
The way it was carried out was far more humane and predictable in the sense all over 60s and all that were in the company less than 2 years.
The second wave went yet again to juniority and pilots with high sickness, warning letters and issues with their flying.
No one is safe as you eloquently put it. The whole world is suffering economically, healthily, mentally etc etc
Being shown the door first, is a natural process of elimination when it comes to non-local staff.
Remember all the extra perks that were given all these decades to non locals.
Balanced? Maybe, maybe not..
Either way, we're all in this crazy ride together.
Support one another, rather than start turning nasty, rude, conceited, hateful and talking crap of one's
previous employer wherever that may be.
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Well said.
As pilots and commanders we are professionals and should behave as such.
its sad that the COVID pandemic has hit the industry and the ensuing fallout.
Spreading malicious rumours and bad mouthing isn’t going to help anyone
As pilots and commanders we are professionals and should behave as such.
its sad that the COVID pandemic has hit the industry and the ensuing fallout.
Spreading malicious rumours and bad mouthing isn’t going to help anyone
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2. What extra perks are you takling about? Housing allowance? Medical cover? The one that excludes any of the good hospitals?
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Hahahaha. You are funny..
How good is the medical coverage back at your previous carrier?
Answer to your petty questions:
1. Poor attempt at sarcasm. Local pilots for the first time ever, outnumber the expats.
You'll probably say, it was for a perfectly good reason.
Yes & no. I'll move on.
2. Schooling allowance, comes to approx $3000/month extra for non locals.
Travelling perks, confirmed business travel even if they've just stepped into the door(higher priority than a local skipper with 40yrs experience) , level 3 english(just), no idea of SOPs, but hey, they're from the west,they must be ace pilots.
-A one off $9000 on arrival to buy personal furniture. That perk has gone now. Boohoo
These are just skimming the surface on differences of perks etc etc
Have a blessed day.
How good is the medical coverage back at your previous carrier?
Answer to your petty questions:
1. Poor attempt at sarcasm. Local pilots for the first time ever, outnumber the expats.
You'll probably say, it was for a perfectly good reason.
Yes & no. I'll move on.
2. Schooling allowance, comes to approx $3000/month extra for non locals.
Travelling perks, confirmed business travel even if they've just stepped into the door(higher priority than a local skipper with 40yrs experience) , level 3 english(just), no idea of SOPs, but hey, they're from the west,they must be ace pilots.
-A one off $9000 on arrival to buy personal furniture. That perk has gone now. Boohoo
These are just skimming the surface on differences of perks etc etc
Have a blessed day.
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My cover was/is excellent. In Oman the expats have to do with second rate clinics, while the locals have access to the best hospitals. This is not wrong for the locals, but it is for the expats.
School allowance does not cover the cost, so money out of the expats pockets. Local have access to local schools. Expats do not.
Setting up life in Oman is not cheap. The entry fees to the schools are huge. The one time allowance covers most of the furniture cost. Not money in the pocket.
Housing allowance does not cover the cost, unless you opt for a substandard apartment/house way out of the central areas. Money out of pocket.
Oman Air is your airline, and if you can run it with local pilots, that is the way it should be. I have no problems with that.
When you talk about getting rid of pilots with high sick leave records, we both know who is on top of that pyramid. When it comes to pilots (and cabin crew) not showing up for the night flights to India, the same applies.
Lets no talk about sub standard performance in the cockpit.
As for expats with poor english skills and poor performance, that is something you should talk to your recruiters about.
School allowance does not cover the cost, so money out of the expats pockets. Local have access to local schools. Expats do not.
Setting up life in Oman is not cheap. The entry fees to the schools are huge. The one time allowance covers most of the furniture cost. Not money in the pocket.
Housing allowance does not cover the cost, unless you opt for a substandard apartment/house way out of the central areas. Money out of pocket.
Oman Air is your airline, and if you can run it with local pilots, that is the way it should be. I have no problems with that.
When you talk about getting rid of pilots with high sick leave records, we both know who is on top of that pyramid. When it comes to pilots (and cabin crew) not showing up for the night flights to India, the same applies.
Lets no talk about sub standard performance in the cockpit.
As for expats with poor english skills and poor performance, that is something you should talk to your recruiters about.
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Topass737: If you are going to make a statement with figures, percentages and grievances, at least have the courtesy of not fabricating and making it sound ever so bad for expats.
First off, it's up to 30% salary deductions for locals and there were old skippers given early retirement too.
First off, it's up to 30% salary deductions for locals and there were old skippers given early retirement too.
That 80% cut has been helped out by loan repayment deferrals, which I belive Oman air worked it out with local banks, granted there were some teething hiccups, but nonetheless was achieved.
The way it was carried out was far more humane and predictable in the sense all over 60s and all that were in the company less than 2 years.
The second wave went yet again to juniority and pilots with high sickness, warning letters and issues with their flying.
Being shown the door first, is a natural process of elimination when it comes to non-local staff.
Remember all the extra perks that were given all these decades to non locals
You forgot to mention the perks given to locals! (free public school, government dismissal protection, pension fund, fast career progression through an unique home made seniority..
Today Oman Air decided unilaterally to stop “temporary” the payment of the school fees to expats pilots. In a civilized country, a contract has a legal value, it represents an agreement and both parties must adhere to the terms,
it doesn’t seem to be the case in Oman unfortunately or maybe only at Oman Air?
Does Oman Air expects Expats pilots to abide by the rules when they will escape the country in a few weeks?
For sure now the management has managed to split the pilot corp
