Qatar salary reductions and redundancies 😬
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FlyingAce77,
I'm on the 777 so I know very little about the 78.
However, 7 cabin crew on a 78 raised my eyebrows.
A quick Google search of the smallest 787 shows me a pic of 8 doors.
How are they running only 7 cabin crew?
In extreme circumstances you may be able to MEL a door to make it work (pax numbers depending), but no regulatory authority (including destination and overflying) will take that excuse on a daily basis.
So.....you sure of that claim you made?
Adding an addition to this post......
I'm never one to quickly delete a post and then hide in the dark when I'm wrong.
Had a chat to a buddy from QR and he confirmed that the 78 is running with 7.
Personally I am surprised that this is true and it has passed muster. However this seems to be the case.
I'm on the 777 so I know very little about the 78.
However, 7 cabin crew on a 78 raised my eyebrows.
A quick Google search of the smallest 787 shows me a pic of 8 doors.
How are they running only 7 cabin crew?
In extreme circumstances you may be able to MEL a door to make it work (pax numbers depending), but no regulatory authority (including destination and overflying) will take that excuse on a daily basis.
So.....you sure of that claim you made?
Adding an addition to this post......
I'm never one to quickly delete a post and then hide in the dark when I'm wrong.
Had a chat to a buddy from QR and he confirmed that the 78 is running with 7.
Personally I am surprised that this is true and it has passed muster. However this seems to be the case.
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Yes is true i did it as well not on the 787 in another aircraft i will post a picture but won’t be right to do it in a public forum, and i won’t tell you either which aircraft or manufacture cause i don’t want that you be googling how many CC fit on each door on a Friday night, go an get a beer with your friends if you have any, instead of been googling about aircraft doors lol
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The FAA makes no mention of # of doors.
No idea on Qatar specific Regs. Countries that follow the FAA have min cabin crew based on seat numbers installed per aircraft and Evac Certification Demonstrations.
CFR 14.121.391 Flight attendants
https://www.govregs.com/regulations/...1#regulation_5
No idea on Qatar specific Regs. Countries that follow the FAA have min cabin crew based on seat numbers installed per aircraft and Evac Certification Demonstrations.
CFR 14.121.391 Flight attendants
https://www.govregs.com/regulations/...1#regulation_5
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I've flown many different types, bombardier, Boeing and Airbus to name a few, none that I can remember have ever specified anything to do with the number of cabin crew required related to how many doors an aircraft has, all to do with how many passengers are onboard, usually about 50 pax per CC. Pax are assumed to be capable of opening a door if briefed accordingly
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No way. Only overwing emergency hatch. Any door should be manned by the cabin crew. Unless there are no passengers in the vicinity, and seats in the area placarded unserviceable.
No way. Only overwing emergency hatch. Any door should be manned by the cabin crew. Unless there are no passengers in the vicinity, and seats in the area placarded unserviceable.
If a door is treated as U/S under the MEL it doesn't need to be manned, however seats nearby are blocked off and pax numbers reduced. Depending on the regulator this can be a useful get home method if you're operating with minimum cabin crew and one goes sick downroute.
Loads are minimal at the moment but being able to operate a flight back with 50 pax offloaded is still better than a cancellation.
Loads are minimal at the moment but being able to operate a flight back with 50 pax offloaded is still better than a cancellation.
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Most places use the requirement of 1 cabin crew for each 50 pax. In the past it used to be related to the number of doors, but it's a been a while since many places worldwide changed this requirement for one CC for each 50 pax (with a lot of lobby by the airlines of course).
Just look at the airlines flying the B737-700 and A319. Most use only 3 cabin crew.
The 787-8 at QR is configured for 254 pax, so the minimum number of cabin crew is actually 6.
Just look at the airlines flying the B737-700 and A319. Most use only 3 cabin crew.
The 787-8 at QR is configured for 254 pax, so the minimum number of cabin crew is actually 6.
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guys, just to get back on track and close the unrelated subjects... i wanna summarize the story..
1) more than approximatelly 50% of the flight deck have been made redundant.. mostly from Airbus family..A350 is relatively on the safe side..
2) Boing fleet is flying on the limits.. so they called back some redundant pilots to rejoin and support boing fleet..i also heard some airbus 330 guys also called back to convert and join boing.. i have no idea based on which criteria they have been called..
if anybody knows more please enlighten us..
1) more than approximatelly 50% of the flight deck have been made redundant.. mostly from Airbus family..A350 is relatively on the safe side..
2) Boing fleet is flying on the limits.. so they called back some redundant pilots to rejoin and support boing fleet..i also heard some airbus 330 guys also called back to convert and join boing.. i have no idea based on which criteria they have been called..
if anybody knows more please enlighten us..
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Heared there are difficulties getting people back who already left, because new RPs are not being issued but people still in country and about to leave who still have RP have been called to stay but dont know details of new salary deals