Qatar salary reductions and redundancies 😬
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Can you tell us which of these many airlines apply the same rule? Bring us facts...Qr didn't even do Temperature checks until late June ...all this because Mr.Burns did not believe in the virus. Now they are all worried about crew getting infected? Makes me laugh... Qr can't impose any restrictions unless its a government law. In Australia, Crew is not allowed to leave the hotel room by LAW. In most European countries, it does not apply to the crew. Qr is not above any law. If a crew gets reported, they should sue The airline and hotel for violating privacy.
Did you know that Qr got a Huge Fine by Pakistan government for not applying COVID SOP protocol? Before applying silly rules to the crew... QR should LEAD by example...
Let's be honest ... the Hotel rooms are not the perfect example of cleanness and hygiene. Better to take a walk in the fresh air and stay away from people.
I would like to see you in your City. I'm sure after ten months stuck in Doha you would Run to visit your family taking all the possible precautions.
Can you tell us which of these many airlines apply the same rule? Bring us facts...Qr didn't even do Temperature checks until late June ...all this because Mr.Burns did not believe in the virus. Now they are all worried about crew getting infected? Makes me laugh... Qr can't impose any restrictions unless its a government law. In Australia, Crew is not allowed to leave the hotel room by LAW. In most European countries, it does not apply to the crew. Qr is not above any law. If a crew gets reported, they should sue The airline and hotel for violating privacy.
Did you know that Qr got a Huge Fine by Pakistan government for not applying COVID SOP protocol? Before applying silly rules to the crew... QR should LEAD by example...
Let's be honest ... the Hotel rooms are not the perfect example of cleanness and hygiene. Better to take a walk in the fresh air and stay away from people.
I would like to see you in your City. I'm sure after ten months stuck in Doha you would Run to visit your family taking all the possible precautions.
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Covid doesn’t discriminate.. CC on the same flight will go to the hotel, change and go out, take insta stories and openly share it on social media.. station information is being regularly ignored.
Covid doesn’t discriminate.. CC on the same flight will go to the hotel, change and go out, take insta stories and openly share it on social media.. station information is being regularly ignored.
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I share your sentiment. The pandemic is and has been tough for many people. For now, I am just grateful that my mortgage is paid, my family has food and I am still able to make use of the education allowance for my child's education. I have seen many of my colleagues depart Qatar and enter an employment abyss; some who may not see the inside of an aircraft for a few years. If you are still employed just be grateful that you still have a job, I know i am. One only has to look across the water at Emirates to see how they have been decimated in the 380 fleet. As a professional pilot my heart goes out to all the families who have been literally destroyed by this situation. Here in Qatar, many crew have been out of the country for 8 months on 30% pay. How many of us could survive on 30% pay?
In summary, it is tough, but it's tough for everyone based on their personal experience. Whining and bitching about how badly you're being treated does not help anyone. When things calm down, which they will, look for another job where you will be better treated. Posting company letters on here serves no purpose other than to show a lack of professionalism. And no, i am not a company apologist and i don't agree with the way everything has been dealt with, but i will act as professionally as i can whilst being paid by Qatar.
I share your sentiment. The pandemic is and has been tough for many people. For now, I am just grateful that my mortgage is paid, my family has food and I am still able to make use of the education allowance for my child's education. I have seen many of my colleagues depart Qatar and enter an employment abyss; some who may not see the inside of an aircraft for a few years. If you are still employed just be grateful that you still have a job, I know i am. One only has to look across the water at Emirates to see how they have been decimated in the 380 fleet. As a professional pilot my heart goes out to all the families who have been literally destroyed by this situation. Here in Qatar, many crew have been out of the country for 8 months on 30% pay. How many of us could survive on 30% pay?
In summary, it is tough, but it's tough for everyone based on their personal experience. Whining and bitching about how badly you're being treated does not help anyone. When things calm down, which they will, look for another job where you will be better treated. Posting company letters on here serves no purpose other than to show a lack of professionalism. And no, i am not a company apologist and i don't agree with the way everything has been dealt with, but i will act as professionally as i can whilst being paid by Qatar.
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Sorry guys, long trip, don't stop flying, living the dream, but borderline regarding the FDP...
First, I didn't delete my post with the document, the pprune admin or moderators did. Why? Any threats from QR?
But people can find the its content here:
https://onemileatatime.com/qatar-air...eatens-pilots/
The author is the CFOO, Jassim has no respect for us!
Second, why would I be "professional" towards an unprofessional management? They treat us like dogs, slaves. So why would I treat them differently?
Third, having the chance to have a job doesn't mean accepting everything and anything.
I can see here the classic speech "if you don't like it leave it" management style.
If no one raise its voice to point out problems, it won't be taken care of, and don't tell me you can fix this internally, I am fed up with those guys pushing my professionalism to the extreme limit, because this is where we are now: exhausted pilots (350 and 777) pushed to the limit.
So Capt., You are treating me like ****, this is your name on the plate, public, travelers, authorities, should see how you treat badly your crew...
First, I didn't delete my post with the document, the pprune admin or moderators did. Why? Any threats from QR?
But people can find the its content here:
https://onemileatatime.com/qatar-air...eatens-pilots/
The author is the CFOO, Jassim has no respect for us!
Second, why would I be "professional" towards an unprofessional management? They treat us like dogs, slaves. So why would I treat them differently?
Third, having the chance to have a job doesn't mean accepting everything and anything.
I can see here the classic speech "if you don't like it leave it" management style.
If no one raise its voice to point out problems, it won't be taken care of, and don't tell me you can fix this internally, I am fed up with those guys pushing my professionalism to the extreme limit, because this is where we are now: exhausted pilots (350 and 777) pushed to the limit.
So Capt., You are treating me like ****, this is your name on the plate, public, travelers, authorities, should see how you treat badly your crew...
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Thats typical GCC mentality! If you aren’t happy Leave.. 😂 Safety is being compromised, Mental Health is an issue, Exhaustion is an issue, Undue pressure from the management is a Issue.
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OMG ,looking at all your post you keep criticizing every single guy you did answer to.
You are one of the 50 too if the airline, probably manager, and you don't want to face the reality here.
You are trying to turn the unprofessional email from the CFOO into a "you are an unprofessional pilot", basically, every single of your post you are trying to turn the guys ridiculous.
Good job mate, keep protecting the company management style.
By the way, I didn't say I am not following SOPs, this is here you way to turn things upside down.
I said it happened I forgot to turn one engine off after landing for taxiing, and so what.
I do say pilots fall into sleep and can not follow SOPs due to exhaustion.
I do say this is now a threat, a threat from the management.
You are one of the 50 too if the airline, probably manager, and you don't want to face the reality here.
You are trying to turn the unprofessional email from the CFOO into a "you are an unprofessional pilot", basically, every single of your post you are trying to turn the guys ridiculous.
Good job mate, keep protecting the company management style.
By the way, I didn't say I am not following SOPs, this is here you way to turn things upside down.
I said it happened I forgot to turn one engine off after landing for taxiing, and so what.
I do say pilots fall into sleep and can not follow SOPs due to exhaustion.
I do say this is now a threat, a threat from the management.
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You are embarrassing yourself and your fellow colleagues. Silver68 hit the nail on the head yet you continue. You are not doing us any favours and you certainly do not speak for me.
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I am not sure you really understand, or you are a part of this tip top management!
If this particular SOP isn't well followed, there is maybe few reasons. Fatigue could be one.
Just for your personal knowledge:
https://www.skybrary.aero/index.php/Fatigue
So please, tell me fatigue can not be a factor!?
Now, if this particular SOP shows little adherence to, the best solution is certainly not to threaten pilots, but to study where the management has failed! In order to understand that (basic Human Factor or CRM course), you need to get out of this management style!
My 2 cents, the fear factor in this company doesn't help...
If this particular SOP isn't well followed, there is maybe few reasons. Fatigue could be one.
Just for your personal knowledge:
https://www.skybrary.aero/index.php/Fatigue
So please, tell me fatigue can not be a factor!?
Now, if this particular SOP shows little adherence to, the best solution is certainly not to threaten pilots, but to study where the management has failed! In order to understand that (basic Human Factor or CRM course), you need to get out of this management style!
My 2 cents, the fear factor in this company doesn't help...
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We understand, we just don't agree with the way in which you going about it. Furthermore, just because people may disagree with you, does not automatically make us management either.
With regard to the main point you are making, the company has simply stated that pilots are not conducting single engine taxiing AND are not giving any reason in the post flight report. They have no issue with you not following this SOP, providing there is a valid reason. So in short, shut down one engine OR make sure you explain why you didn't.
Do i agree with the threat of termination because of this? No. This is however their train set and they get to make the rules.
With regard to the main point you are making, the company has simply stated that pilots are not conducting single engine taxiing AND are not giving any reason in the post flight report. They have no issue with you not following this SOP, providing there is a valid reason. So in short, shut down one engine OR make sure you explain why you didn't.
Do i agree with the threat of termination because of this? No. This is however their train set and they get to make the rules.
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Think you're missing out on the big picture just like I was when in Qr. I'm currently unemployed with two children and a wife. We are living on my savings, my wife found a job, and the kids are going to school. Guess what? It's not so bad...We are back to reality. I prefer this life than the one I Had in Qr. My advice is don't think that Qr is everything because today your in and tomorrow your out (HOPE NOT)
I was really stressed in Qr, and the last email about Single engine taxi brought back to my mind all the threatening ACN, emails sent by managers and also the generally hostile atmosphere. The QR mentality is '' One makes a mistake lets punish them all'. You Perfectly know why the crew are not conferable with Single Eng Taxi... especially in DOH. In a way, I'm thankful they took the decision for me to lead that place.
Mr EXPAT PILOT is showing our community how more messed up things are in QR and how they are dealing with it. It might not be very professional, but QR isn't professional with him and our colleges, so they deserve it.
Think you're missing out on the big picture just like I was when in Qr. I'm currently unemployed with two children and a wife. We are living on my savings, my wife found a job, and the kids are going to school. Guess what? It's not so bad...We are back to reality. I prefer this life than the one I Had in Qr. My advice is don't think that Qr is everything because today your in and tomorrow your out (HOPE NOT)
I was really stressed in Qr, and the last email about Single engine taxi brought back to my mind all the threatening ACN, emails sent by managers and also the generally hostile atmosphere. The QR mentality is '' One makes a mistake lets punish them all'. You Perfectly know why the crew are not conferable with Single Eng Taxi... especially in DOH. In a way, I'm thankful they took the decision for me to lead that place.
Mr EXPAT PILOT is showing our community how more messed up things are in QR and how they are dealing with it. It might not be very professional, but QR isn't professional with him and our colleges, so they deserve it.
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Thanks, but i don't think i'm missing the big picture at all. I've been in the ME nearly 7 years and i'm pretty familiar with how things are done here in Qatar. For the record, I don't believe Qatar is 'everything' at all, far from it.
I wish you and your family all the best for the future.
Thanks, but i don't think i'm missing the big picture at all. I've been in the ME nearly 7 years and i'm pretty familiar with how things are done here in Qatar. For the record, I don't believe Qatar is 'everything' at all, far from it.
I wish you and your family all the best for the future.
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We have pilot from different countries and cultures . People who came from third world countries think Qatar airways is best airline and that's because the way there were treated back at their ex- employer. Imagine a pilot was working 20 years in a hostile environment with low income and then joined Qatar airways .
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Never become a QR employee if you can't follow the quote bellow:
"You don’t want to work anywhere you’re not willing to get fired from."
Accept that and QR will be the best job you will ever have...
"You don’t want to work anywhere you’re not willing to get fired from."
Accept that and QR will be the best job you will ever have...
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it’s strange to make SE taxi as SOP. Boeing, for instance, never recommended SE taxi, but left to operators to come up with their own rules. The airline I used to fly for would “strongly recommend SE taxi,” but after due consideration of several variables by the crew.
Never part of the SOP.
it’s strange to make SE taxi as SOP. Boeing, for instance, never recommended SE taxi, but left to operators to come up with their own rules. The airline I used to fly for would “strongly recommend SE taxi,” but after due consideration of several variables by the crew.
Never part of the SOP.