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Qatar salary reductions and redundancies 😬

Old 28th Jul 2021, 22:40
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Be thankful, atleast you have a job, a lot of us would love to be in your position right now
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Old 29th Jul 2021, 06:41
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Sure the bond is a bit high but I also assume that you do not plan to go anywhere and maybe do another 10 years in the sandpit with the company.

As for the 25% reduction, when things started to slow down were you not all given paycuts so its not anything that you are not used to?

Also for the others around the world that are looking for jobs, life in QR can't be that bad when you have company accommodation, schools paid for and those associated benefits.
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Old 29th Jul 2021, 07:55
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I will happily stick to my current flight instructor job rather than going back to QR.
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Old 29th Jul 2021, 07:55
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Company accommodation? associated benefits? I assume you don't work in Qatar. Company accommodation is accommodation provided by the company at the employees expense, at a rate that is way above any private rental of the same property type. Continually eroding medical insurance cover. No more loss of license cover. Reduced flying pay and increased flying hours to max hours almost every month. Days off limited to minimum. Annual leave restricted or even cancelled for some.

Apart from that, everything is dandy. I just can't think why people keep resigning, especially with no job to go to.

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Old 29th Jul 2021, 11:12
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Good to see that so!
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Old 30th Jul 2021, 01:54
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Rejoiners going onto a new fleet are subject to a bond. Question is, is it a paper bond with lots of promises or are the slimeballs actually taking money out of the first year joinining salary less 25%?

If its the former and no cash is removed then great. Sign all the papers they want you to sign. And when you find a new job with your fresh new type rating just walk away. Infact operate the aircraft to a destination that suits you and just dissappear.
Qatar Airways has plunged itself to the bottom of the employment barrel with such haste its unbelievable.
To new or rejoiners - take the job with both hands but use and screw the company before they can do it to you.
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Old 1st Aug 2021, 17:38
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Talking to a friend who rejoined last week felt more like a person who’s trying to fix a broken marriage after a split, there is only sadness and resentment. It’s an extremely hard task to make it work again and will never be the same like the old times. Not only I felt his disappointment for being treated as a new joiner but also the new bond imposed, lower compensation package, worst company accommodation than his previous on, etc… all these things really took a toll on him. Not to mention having to deal with all the hassle when you first move to a country after he just went thru the same hassle 8 months ago to leave this same country. It’s not a situation to the faint of heart. Sometimes I just wonder if rejoining is indeed the best decision.
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Old 2nd Aug 2021, 05:58
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you don’t like ? Want to protest ? Too hot right now , maybe wait for winter , humidity will come down
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Old 2nd Aug 2021, 10:36
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Genuine question. How many of you plan on still being here in Qatar for the world cup?
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Old 5th Aug 2021, 14:06
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As QRA350 put so clearly, YOU GUYS HAVE A JOB. Just out of respect for the many that are still unemployed, please stop whining. Myself, and many others I’m sure, would be happy to be where you are now. If it’s just too much for you to bear, leave space for the really hungry. Complaints with a full belly definitely sound hollow.
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Old 5th Aug 2021, 18:12
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I would go Back in a heartbeat if they called me, unfortunatelly I wasn't senior enough to keep my Job when they started to let people go last year.
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Old 5th Aug 2021, 18:30
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And this is exactly why our profession is hitting rock bottom. I feel sorry for your situation but "will fly for food" is not the solution here.
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Old 5th Aug 2021, 18:48
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I concur with this statement

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Old 5th Aug 2021, 20:51
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Qatar re hiring that’s good, Australia has again locked down now 18 million people Victoria only just let out of the cage last week now back in. There will be no Airlines left here in 12 months. You guys going back are lucky
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Old 6th Aug 2021, 09:25
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Then resign and show them where pilot’s rights stand.
Or admit that in tough times you’ve to plow trough some hard soil, and don’t expect who’s in deeper trouble than you to fight your battles or embrace your sorrows
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Old 6th Aug 2021, 09:39
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Our profession has hit rock bottom with Pay to Fly, with 400 hours junior F/O’s having a seat on a wide body, with 1500 hours captains flying around Europe on a certain type of airlines, with hundreds or maybe thousands of licenses given for a “fee” in certain parts of the world and then converted without a wink by a certain queen’s offices.

And whiners, that’s rock bottom.

You agree with the statement? Then collect your last year’s rosters, collate them with your last year’s logbook and send the file to EASA to reassess QR compliance.

It’s gonna be interesting...
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Old 6th Aug 2021, 09:47
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Feel free to cite any reference that shows airlines upgrading captains at 1500 hours TT.
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Old 6th Aug 2021, 10:42
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You are entitled of an opinion and I respect that. Every case is different tho, In my case , QR gave exactly what they offered me when they interviewed me, I was not mislead and neither forced to anything . They didn't hold a gun to my head to get me to sign a Contract and I was free to go whenever I wanted to.
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Old 6th Aug 2021, 13:19
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You might not believe it but I already did, long before the COVID crises, when they started messing up with the T&C and changed the overtime AFTER having flown like crazy on the past year. I realized it was time to prepare a scape plan, saved all the money I could and left. Wished more followed instead of just seating around worrying about fleet transfers.

As I said I really simpatize with your situation, but if we let the company push us down this one more step the new normal will be captains earning less than FOs sharing the same cockpit.

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Old 7th Aug 2021, 06:23
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So if a First Officer does his/her upgrade in Qatar am I correct in thinking they then take a pay cut by signing the new Captains contract?
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