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Qatar salary reductions and redundancies 😬

Old 2nd Aug 2021, 05:58
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you don’t like ? Want to protest ? Too hot right now , maybe wait for winter , humidity will come down
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Old 2nd Aug 2021, 10:36
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Genuine question. How many of you plan on still being here in Qatar for the world cup?
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Old 5th Aug 2021, 14:06
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As QRA350 put so clearly, YOU GUYS HAVE A JOB. Just out of respect for the many that are still unemployed, please stop whining. Myself, and many others I’m sure, would be happy to be where you are now. If it’s just too much for you to bear, leave space for the really hungry. Complaints with a full belly definitely sound hollow.
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Old 5th Aug 2021, 18:12
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I would go Back in a heartbeat if they called me, unfortunatelly I wasn't senior enough to keep my Job when they started to let people go last year.
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Old 5th Aug 2021, 18:30
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And this is exactly why our profession is hitting rock bottom. I feel sorry for your situation but "will fly for food" is not the solution here.
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Old 5th Aug 2021, 18:48
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I concur with this statement

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Old 5th Aug 2021, 20:51
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Qatar re hiring that’s good, Australia has again locked down now 18 million people Victoria only just let out of the cage last week now back in. There will be no Airlines left here in 12 months. You guys going back are lucky
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Old 6th Aug 2021, 09:25
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Then resign and show them where pilot’s rights stand.
Or admit that in tough times you’ve to plow trough some hard soil, and don’t expect who’s in deeper trouble than you to fight your battles or embrace your sorrows
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Old 6th Aug 2021, 09:39
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Our profession has hit rock bottom with Pay to Fly, with 400 hours junior F/O’s having a seat on a wide body, with 1500 hours captains flying around Europe on a certain type of airlines, with hundreds or maybe thousands of licenses given for a “fee” in certain parts of the world and then converted without a wink by a certain queen’s offices.

And whiners, that’s rock bottom.

You agree with the statement? Then collect your last year’s rosters, collate them with your last year’s logbook and send the file to EASA to reassess QR compliance.

It’s gonna be interesting...
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Old 6th Aug 2021, 09:47
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Feel free to cite any reference that shows airlines upgrading captains at 1500 hours TT.
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Old 6th Aug 2021, 10:42
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You are entitled of an opinion and I respect that. Every case is different tho, In my case , QR gave exactly what they offered me when they interviewed me, I was not mislead and neither forced to anything . They didn't hold a gun to my head to get me to sign a Contract and I was free to go whenever I wanted to.
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Old 6th Aug 2021, 13:19
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You might not believe it but I already did, long before the COVID crises, when they started messing up with the T&C and changed the overtime AFTER having flown like crazy on the past year. I realized it was time to prepare a scape plan, saved all the money I could and left. Wished more followed instead of just seating around worrying about fleet transfers.

As I said I really simpatize with your situation, but if we let the company push us down this one more step the new normal will be captains earning less than FOs sharing the same cockpit.

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Old 7th Aug 2021, 06:23
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So if a First Officer does his/her upgrade in Qatar am I correct in thinking they then take a pay cut by signing the new Captains contract?
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Old 9th Aug 2021, 11:23
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Has anyone in last 2 weeks received any rejoining invite mail? Have only heard about a few 320 FOs who did so along with PSA but no dates yet.
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Old 9th Aug 2021, 11:34
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What's the outlook in terms of pilot numbers currently based on the schedules?
​​​​​Too many? Too few?
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Old 9th Aug 2021, 15:25
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If you ignore the idiot.

Frantically trying to re-hire pilots who were fired. Not all agreeing to the new contract. Pilots on maximum hours and minimum days off. Steady stream of people leaving too.
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Old 10th Aug 2021, 22:37
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Avgas777 - just a few minor points. No one signs a contract. QR gives an agreement and in general they stuck to it. The agreement is such things as salary, housing, education allowance, transport, telephone etc.
The stuff that really gets up the nostrils of most crew is the arbitury changing of various allowances such as in flight hourly pay and overtime. And it is always for the worse and is always done without prior advice to the crew.

If you are a happy puppy in QR good for you. Most of us are not!
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Old 11th Aug 2021, 16:49
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Do you honestly believe there will be upgrades this year? let me have some of that shisha... I hope i am wrong.

QRAviator I know people with DOJs assigned through December, I wouldn't expect anything this year.

777Kicker that's all that most do these days, whine. Many on here b&m about the company and/or country but are eagerly waiting to be called back. Go figure.

It's an employers market right now, China is offering almost half the precovid salary (Triple7 Captain $10.5K). Its only a matter of time when things will swing back our way.. US airlines are facing massive shortages and EK have already opened up careers website for registering for future opportunities.

Until then, carry on!

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Old 12th Aug 2021, 07:43
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Not strictly. They have emailed A380 pilots (not 777) and some cabin crew for an expression of interest for a possible future rehire. The website doesn’t take applications.
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Old 12th Aug 2021, 08:49
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The Emirates website just took my 777 application. Granted it is an expression of interest, but application submitted none the less.
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