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Qatar salary reductions and redundancies 😬

Old 23rd Oct 2020, 15:31
  #321 (permalink)  
 
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You are embarrassing yourself and your fellow colleagues. Silver68 hit the nail on the head yet you continue. You are not doing us any favours and you certainly do not speak for me.

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Old 23rd Oct 2020, 15:39
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I am not sure you really understand, or you are a part of this tip top management!
If this particular SOP isn't well followed, there is maybe few reasons. Fatigue could be one.
Just for your personal knowledge:
https://www.skybrary.aero/index.php/Fatigue

So please, tell me fatigue can not be a factor!?

Now, if this particular SOP shows little adherence to, the best solution is certainly not to threaten pilots, but to study where the management has failed! In order to understand that (basic Human Factor or CRM course), you need to get out of this management style!

My 2 cents, the fear factor in this company doesn't help...
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Old 23rd Oct 2020, 16:14
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We understand, we just don't agree with the way in which you going about it. Furthermore, just because people may disagree with you, does not automatically make us management either.

With regard to the main point you are making, the company has simply stated that pilots are not conducting single engine taxiing AND are not giving any reason in the post flight report. They have no issue with you not following this SOP, providing there is a valid reason. So in short, shut down one engine OR make sure you explain why you didn't.

Do i agree with the threat of termination because of this? No. This is however their train set and they get to make the rules.
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Old 23rd Oct 2020, 17:55
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Silver68

Think you're missing out on the big picture just like I was when in Qr. I'm currently unemployed with two children and a wife. We are living on my savings, my wife found a job, and the kids are going to school. Guess what? It's not so bad...We are back to reality. I prefer this life than the one I Had in Qr. My advice is don't think that Qr is everything because today your in and tomorrow your out (HOPE NOT)

I was really stressed in Qr, and the last email about Single engine taxi brought back to my mind all the threatening ACN, emails sent by managers and also the generally hostile atmosphere. The QR mentality is '' One makes a mistake lets punish them all'. You Perfectly know why the crew are not conferable with Single Eng Taxi... especially in DOH. In a way, I'm thankful they took the decision for me to lead that place.

Mr EXPAT PILOT is showing our community how more messed up things are in QR and how they are dealing with it. It might not be very professional, but QR isn't professional with him and our colleges, so they deserve it.
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Old 23rd Oct 2020, 18:48
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skyfl410

Thanks, but i don't think i'm missing the big picture at all. I've been in the ME nearly 7 years and i'm pretty familiar with how things are done here in Qatar. For the record, I don't believe Qatar is 'everything' at all, far from it.

I wish you and your family all the best for the future.
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Old 23rd Oct 2020, 21:20
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We have pilot from different countries and cultures . People who came from third world countries think Qatar airways is best airline and that's because the way there were treated back at their ex- employer. Imagine a pilot was working 20 years in a hostile environment with low income and then joined Qatar airways .
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Old 23rd Oct 2020, 21:40
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Never become a QR employee if you can't follow the quote bellow:
"You don’t want to work anywhere you’re not willing to get fired from."

Accept that and QR will be the best job you will ever have...
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Old 24th Oct 2020, 06:29
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What is happening to people stuck outside the country ? Return and then fired ?
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Old 24th Oct 2020, 22:07
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Habibi said you are all a bunch of thieves, open your bag!
New ACN...
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Old 25th Oct 2020, 00:01
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Silver68

it’s strange to make SE taxi as SOP. Boeing, for instance, never recommended SE taxi, but left to operators to come up with their own rules. The airline I used to fly for would “strongly recommend SE taxi,” but after due consideration of several variables by the crew.
Never part of the SOP.
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Old 25th Oct 2020, 01:14
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Neektu, can we have a reference please?
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Old 25th Oct 2020, 05:28
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Neektu,

Not really. I've worked at a couple of airlines that have made it a procedure, albeit never mandatory, as here in Qatar.
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Old 25th Oct 2020, 06:47
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Is hard to believe the crews are not following the RETI procedure. I would call it . What I observed every single crew is trying to follow SOP at least for few seconds before docking if not other way possible. If the company has a problem with numbers firstly ask state-of-the-air IT department how databases are connected…. I do understand the number for management is kind of problem, but company should ask how they get the number at first place if number provided is realistic or just generated from in-house-made IT system. I have never seen ignoring single engine taxi in for no reason, never!

Plus I completely agree that email was arrogant and far beyond how to communicate with people in 5 star company. And shortly after… the management approved breast cancer show-off 787 flight in time when nobody cares about breast cancer, waste tons of fuel for no reason. Great motivation to continue with single engine taxi in order to safe few kilograms of fuel…
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Old 25th Oct 2020, 10:28
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I always followed the SOP and used SE taxi after landing but yer My contract got terminated. I think they are just making excuse to terminate more flight crew contrast. Typical middle east attitude. The problem is they have money and there are always people who want to make more money and join Qatar Airways. The reality is money is everything.
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Old 25th Oct 2020, 10:32
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~Great PR for Qatar

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-10-...found/12811716
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Old 25th Oct 2020, 17:20
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O.M.G. what a bunch of clowns......
you can’t make this up, can you....
well that sums it up nicely isn’ it? That alone did more damage than 1000 posts on prune....


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Old 26th Oct 2020, 08:16
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Nothing about it in the local news, they keep it quiet, nothing happened.
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Old 26th Oct 2020, 10:57
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Unfortunately, More of my friends have been made redundant. Two on A320 and one on A330. There were other 15 pilots with them...
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Old 26th Oct 2020, 11:02
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Capn Rex Havoc

This is crazy! Happy not to be part of them anymore... they are really embarrassing.
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Old 26th Oct 2020, 13:45
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Well they can't hide.. it's in the news everywhere 😂

Just a few...
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-search-ordeal
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/26/w...arch-baby.html
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-54682565
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news...ralia-13372932
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