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Old 19th Oct 2020, 16:32
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Thanks Mate,
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Old 20th Oct 2020, 16:58
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More redundancies

Habibi said more redundancies,
Guess what, Habibi was right...
A320 pilots fired, it is just a start.
Guys coming back to Doha, be aware.
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Old 21st Oct 2020, 10:00
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Not entirely accurate. I know 5 guys that came back and are flying the line.
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Old 21st Oct 2020, 10:04
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As I said, hold your breath. It is not because they are flying now, that they won't be made redundant.
You know how it works here! Nothing makes sense.
But, Habibi said...
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Old 21st Oct 2020, 11:14
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All T7 I suppose?
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Old 21st Oct 2020, 11:29
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Holding my breath? Why, are you? Have you seen what’s going on in our industry around the world?

Unfortunately and most regrettably redundancies are inevitable. And my close friends and colleagues who have been made redundant have my deepest sympathies. Wishing you all the best.

But coming on here and being a bearer of bad news doesn’t help anyone. You almost seem to revel in it as a poster previously mentioned.
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Old 21st Oct 2020, 16:34
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What do you want to hear? Qatar Airways is the amazing employer respecting his staff and crew?
Of course not, so I just share the real "what is going on inside".
By the way, some engineers were made redundant recently, thanks to the new Skipper-engineer ACN.
During that time, I am flying with guys who are dead exhausted but dare not saying it or raising the concern, thanks to the fear management style.
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Old 21st Oct 2020, 17:41
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Go out and get yourself a hobby.
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Old 21st Oct 2020, 23:35
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I think that QR management still works on a short term basis. They should get down and focus on the long term and make the right decisions at the right time.
I don't think it's very intelligent to send pilots away at this current moment because many have families. Lots of these poor pilots have already sent their children to school. By sending away a pilot not only you messed up a personal life but they are also messing around with peoples families and children.
Immagine leaving Doha after three/four years, going back to your home country in the current situation, looking for a right school. If you are lucky, they might accept your child in NOVEMBER if not your child could lose a hall year of school. Immagine your kids readapting to new friends, teachers, environment etc. or Asking your wife to find a new job .. I think QR management is really out of there minds. The only have the small picture. Why didn't they make the real decision at the right moment like in July and august? That was the moment to make the definite cut. Was it so hard to understand that this ******* virus situation was going to carry on for a long time? QR is not only responsible for its pax but also the crew AND FAMILIES!!! ... This is the moment where they had to show the 5-star airline.

FlyingOW, we are talking about the wealthiest country in the world. In the aviation language ''rich'' means having the most significant advantage on everything... they can save every single staff with all the money they get from the Qatari government... But still today they are behaving like a low-cost carrier. Sending childish email about saving fuel but they waste money on empty flights..

FlyingOW : Unfortunately and most regrettably redundancies are inevitable...

Reaaally?? are they INEVITABLE?? I don't think so... is it so hard for them to understand that crew would accept UNPAID LEAVE on a
turnover basis ....Like six months on six months off. This would help the airline save money, be more human, keep the pilots relaxed, have them always updated and QR would make great publicity! Immagine the slogan ''WE KEPT YOU ALL..TO FLY OUR FUTURE TOGETHER''

noooo it's too hard for them. The best way is to keep them stuck in Doha, pay them full salary without nothing to do, keep them suffering because they can't fly back to there country to visit a relative, send IDIOTIC EMAILS. Worst of all crew fly in a general environment which does not help safety.

They are just too stubborn to give options to staff and see what would be best for both airline and crew.

Instead of sending surveys on fatigue which are useless, they should send a survey on what people need.. Help them get home.

BUT NO SORRY they are Just too busy finding WhatsApp groups, send stupid emails about Single engine taxi...yeaaa this is a problem.

Expat pilot is not giving bad news its just the pure reality. He told us that by the end of October, more pilots would be redundant, guess what.... it's happening.
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Old 22nd Oct 2020, 04:31
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True that, around 400+ Aircraft Engineers & Mechanics have been made redundant in the current redundancy drive that happened last week. It’s just a S*** Show. ULV Cabin Crews have as well been made redundant, this is Majority who took unpaid leave.
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Old 22nd Oct 2020, 04:35
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This has been started from B787s initially..
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Old 22nd Oct 2020, 06:33
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Guess what! due to overused rosters, and ACN 064-20, I can not go out (illegally) and I have no time for a hobby except flying for QR.
Well done!
How can they legally block us in countries where we are free to go out?
How could they justify that in front of a local court (Germany, USA, ....)?
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Old 22nd Oct 2020, 07:41
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it was sarcasm
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Old 22nd Oct 2020, 10:17
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CC can go out but FDC can’t go out, if you go out, you are Fired” I guess Qatar has no concept of Mental Health, if they did, things would have had been different” EG is the EEP System!
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Old 22nd Oct 2020, 10:20
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Originally Posted by Skyfl410
Unfortunately seems to be true. 777 Cpt from New Zealand. This is what a friend told me.
That’s correct, He was from NZ & was made redundant. It’s just sad what has happened starting March in QR & Across the Aviation Industry.
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Old 22nd Oct 2020, 12:01
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Offenders ? WTF ..... Let’s bring them on chop chop square like saudi .
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Old 22nd Oct 2020, 13:09
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Guys, despite any grievances that we may have, let us keep it professional. Posting internal documents on a forum such as this is not the way to do it. Especially when peoples names are in full view.
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Old 22nd Oct 2020, 17:01
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Think a bit...
What could be the reason of those 55% compliance rate?
I have raised a point of flying, fatigue, It happened I just forgot to shut down one engine for taxi after a long duty.... And so what? is this unprofessionalism?
So, before trying to shot me, try not to act as one of our company manager, and try to understand WHY the trend went that low.
Shall I shut down an engine for taxi if I feel it is not the right moment, time to do it?
And don't tell me I could explain them, there is nothing like explaining them.
Especially after their legal 23h FDP turns...
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Old 22nd Oct 2020, 17:02
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CC can go out but FDC can’t go out, if you go out, you are Fired” I guess Qatar has no concept of Mental Health, if they did, things would have had been different” EG is the EEP System!
Well, many airlines do not let their crew go out of rooms. Its probably for their own good, but I would say it's mostly so that they don't go get infected in places like US, UK or India and import covid back home. If grown adult pilots cant even stay in their rooms for a few days without having mental issues, especially with all the glorious tech stuff around something is really wrong.

Just zoom or FaceTime somebody. Even better bring ur com and enjoy the freedom gaming
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Old 22nd Oct 2020, 17:25
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Originally Posted by Silver68
Guys, despite any grievances that we may have, let us keep it professional. Posting internal documents on a forum such as this is not the way to do it. Especially when peoples names are in full view.
How can you stay PROFESSIONAL with someone how is not professional with you? Personally, I think its correct to advise people what really goes on in QR.

Which documents have been shown on the forum? please bring facts..
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