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Old 29th Aug 2020, 08:06
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I totally agree with you.
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Old 29th Aug 2020, 08:11
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Originally Posted by 777kicker
BTW, the soon to be 350 relative has been enjoying a big fat warming letter up until may, but there he is, safe and sound... talk about some luck, would ya?
Come on!! A warning letter is nothing compared to Whatsapp groups
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Old 29th Aug 2020, 11:03
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Planeur is correct in what he says, I remember all this to be what happened and had a friend that used QR to get back from SE Asia and they were relieved to get back just before the UK lockdown started. Sad fact that modern air travel spreads the virus successfully to the four corners of the earth and rapidly. That's why the richer economies suffered the worst in the beginning of the pandemic due to being well connected. The CEO's comments at the time were just ill informed rubbish he'd do better to keep his comments to himself than come out with such drivel. As to the whatsapp redundancy that just beggars belief that a company would use that as a method to select people for redundancy.
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Old 29th Aug 2020, 11:05
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Originally Posted by Count von Altibar
As to the whatsapp redundancy that just beggars belief that a company would use that as a method to select people for redundancy.
Yet, thatís exactly whatís happening.
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Old 29th Aug 2020, 11:37
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That is exactly what happened, most probably this username belongs to a troll from the company.
They violated people's privacy by looking and even sharing screenshots sent by some coward and called more than 100 pilots in the office, shouted at them, suspended many without pay, left them there stuck in doha for almost a month then made them redundand usid the covid excuse to cover up the nazi style elimination. I know some of the guys who left the company, they did absolutely nothing, excellent pilots, no letters, nothing, hard workers, now they can finally make space for their below average pilots, including their friends and even relatives of the manager in flight ops and I'm not only talking about Qatari guys.
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Old 29th Aug 2020, 11:50
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There are quite a few Honored and Proud to be working in this ....outfit

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Old 30th Aug 2020, 04:57
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Very sad and unfair

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Very sad and unfair
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Old 1st Sep 2020, 11:34
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Originally Posted by Jack330
That is exactly what happened, most probably this username belongs to a troll from the company.
They violated people's privacy by looking and even sharing screenshots sent by some coward and called more than 100 pilots in the office, shouted at them, suspended many without pay, left them there stuck in doha for almost a month then made them redundand usid the covid excuse to cover up the nazi style elimination. I know some of the guys who left the company, they did absolutely nothing, excellent pilots, no letters, nothing, hard workers, now they can finally make space for their below average pilots, including their friends and even relatives of the manager in flight ops and I'm not only talking about Qatari guys.
Top manager saved his Friends this is crazy. I hope AB wakes up...
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Old 1st Sep 2020, 14:57
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Very typical ME and associated Sub continent management types ! QR is the worst , but EK same same .
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Old 1st Sep 2020, 19:54
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It’s like EK and QR try to outdo each other.
Did you see the list of guys who were kicked out @ EK ranked by seniority?
It certainly seems that TCB made sure that all his buddies remained on inboard.
i coudn’t believe the rumor, until i saw the spreadsheet myself...some strange gaps in the list...
And no we’re not talking about the locals who ofcourse stay onboard and live in a different galaxy.
zero work but full pay.....

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Old 1st Sep 2020, 21:22
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The manager in question is not a local, he's from europe ! I'm not sure that AB knows the dirty things they're doing or maybe he does... The other news is that the company is not paying the redundant guys their final settlement money, at least not to the guys that were in the ISP Zurich program, more than two months wasted waiting for the money, no reply to phone calls or email as well, just wait and pray, this is shameful, far away from the "five star" image they're trying to show.
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Old 1st Sep 2020, 22:18
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Iím still waiting for my final settlement two months after getting home. Iíve emailed numerous times and am now getting really short of cash. Very disappointing.
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Old 2nd Sep 2020, 07:09
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Same story here. No reply from HR to my daily email.

I took for granted that they would keep their end of the bargain. I hope I wasn’t too “naive”.
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Old 2nd Sep 2020, 10:17
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Originally Posted by 5star
indeed Fatbus
Itís like EK and QR try to outdo each other.
Did you see the list of guys who were kicked out @ EK ranked by seniority?
It certainly seems that TCB made sure that all his buddies remained on inboard.
i coudnít believe the rumor, until i saw the spreadsheet myself...some strange gaps in the list...
And no weíre not talking about the locals who ofcourse stay onboard and live in a different galaxy.
zero work but full pay.....
I am sure that in EK the locals don't become fleet managers after landing in unstable conditions..But guess what?? They do in QR only because they are locals

ps The F/o got a warning
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Old 2nd Sep 2020, 10:18
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Iím still waiting for my final settlement two months after getting home. Iíve emailed numerous times and am now getting really short of cash. Very disappointing.
They are probably busy checking out WhatsApp groups...
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Old 5th Sep 2020, 11:54
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So true. I was part of the Whatsapp group too and I was not active in the group. Maybe that's why my contract was terminated. I think Flight crews need to create their own Union so Qatar Airways could not dictate what they want. Without Union, they can terminate anyone's contract and all other flight crews won't care as long as they are still employed. They don't understand that at some point this might happen to them as well.

Corona taught me a lesson about Qatar Airways. It's the best airline when they need a pilot and it can be a worse airline when they don't need you.

I always thought other airlines such as American airlines, etc are worse compare to Qatar as they do not offer business class tickets, Worldwide medical coverage, etc but I changed my mind now.

Good luck everyone.

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Old 5th Sep 2020, 13:51
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It won't happen, due to the principle of the prisoners dilemma. Which basically states that individuals in a group will not choose the optimum outcome for the group due to fear of non compliance by the other members.
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Old 5th Sep 2020, 18:48
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Originally Posted by mmorel

I always thought other airlines such as American airlines, etc are worse compare to Qatar as they do not offer business class tickets, Worldwide medical coverage, etc but I changed my mind now.

Good luck everyone.
Thatís not at all accurate. Pretty much all US airlines offer world wide medical coverage and FREE/zero cost unlimited (space available) travel in highest class open. They just donít offer ďconfirmedĒ J class.
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think you’ll find that trade unions are illegal in all of the middle eastern countries...... everyone knows this when they sign up though..... it’s always a trade off - better money, quicker progression, and a chance to show the ritzy life and travels to folks back home.

everyone has different reasons for being in the Middle East, and for a lot of folks it works, but it has always been clear that those folks who have waited patiently in line at legacy carriers will be looked after much better than those who rolled the quick win dice in the Middle East. That’s not to say there aren’t legacy Carrier guys who are suffering, but strong IR law and strong unions are still a good hundred years away in the desert.

i am truly sorry that your journey has come to an end though and I hope you and everyone else in this terrible situation manages to find a way back into the sky soon!

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Old 6th Sep 2020, 08:49
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Just a new update from a friend, one of the whatsapp victims, he was made redundant at the beginning of July then suspended and kept without ANY communication and NO salary for more than a month in the accomodation, today, September 6 he's still waiting for his final settlement money, this is the way qatar airways treats ex employees, I would say a five star treatment, amazing right ? Considering that those guys went flying during their days off or while on leave just to help the company during the covid issue, congratulations Qatar Airways, you are truly a five star airline
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