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EK to Decommission 50%+ of Airbus A380, Axe 1/2 of Pilots & Cabin Crew

Old 9th Jun 2020, 13:56
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Has anyone been able to ascertain the criteria used for the redundancies ?
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Old 9th Jun 2020, 14:03
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Originally Posted by GH66
A "great company" indeed... The only thing great about this company is the staff who have endured many years contributing to the company's repeated success and then are treated like used rags and kicked out the doors without any showing of grace or gratitude. Girls and Guys invested their lives at this ungrateful company and certainly should be shown more respect from these megalomaniacs. Years of loyal service chopped for petty warnings (in most cases) and genuine sicknesses (many from over-working)! God help these maniacs and hope we never forget next time they need to recruit...
This is the case In all over Middle East” They will get their lesson soon” Karma bites hard.
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Old 9th Jun 2020, 14:09
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Originally Posted by donpizmeov
I really don't think EK could have handled today any worse. Very disrespectful to the fellas and girls that were led into the slaughterhouse.
Ladies and gents I am lost for words for what happened today and how you were treated.
My thoughts to all... but I’m hearing there is more to come tomorrow. I hope I’m wrong. Please take care of yourselves .
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Old 9th Jun 2020, 14:13
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Originally Posted by FlyingAce77
600 is the number I’m hearing when it comes to Deck Crew”
Reported 400 from A380, 200 from B777 with a further 300 to come according to this:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business...main-grounded/
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Old 9th Jun 2020, 14:15
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Originally Posted by donpizmeov
I really don't think EK could have handled today any worse. Very disrespectful to the fellas and girls that were led into the slaughterhouse.
Ladies and gents I am lost for words for what happened today and how you were treated.
My sentiments exactly. Today will be remembered as a day when those departing were let down by a process devoid of any compassion or empathy and has created more unanswered questions than it provided answers to.

For those that are fortunate enough to remain, (for the moment at least!) the dearth of communications from management will only elevate levels of anxiety and stress for many. Whilst that alone is highly undesirable, the fact we are not in routine flying practice only makes a precarious situation even worse.

To those coming to terms with this bad news, I wish you every ounce of luck and success and it was a pleasure to work alongside you.
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Old 9th Jun 2020, 14:23
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Originally Posted by hulabaloome2
Has anyone been able to ascertain the criteria used for the redundancies ?
Not officially anyhow... The puppet managers have quoted that they do not know what criteria was used... A load of rubbish!!! They did what was the easiest for them and went after the vulnerable: Pilots who were genuinely off sick, pilots who were marked for "performance" issues (???) and those who had ANY warnings on their files no matter how petty and those not on the golfing squad of certain managers... They needed a number and those above were obviously the easy grab with a total disregard for what some top individuals who got the boot have contributed to this operation. No heart or soul or human discretion applied... I wish this company in the future will be treated the same way by their customers and remaining employees the way they have treated people who have been loyal to them!!!
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Old 9th Jun 2020, 14:25
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Hello everyone
As an airline pilot myself and currently also un-employed , I would like to just convey my deepest empathy with each and everyone that was retrench the last +- week at EK. It is a massive shock and disappointment when you are "dished" this misfortune. I wish you all the best and that you will be airborne asap.
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Old 9th Jun 2020, 14:40
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I served 20 years with EK. I was thrown out by my own doing. I have watched events today with dismay.My heart bleeds for those affected.Friends, former colleagues, Some who have given a lifetime of service. All who committed and worked to their best.
Tbe way you have been treated sickens me. The low cost that I went to did better than that.
It is a shame on the company and a shame on the country. A total disrespect. But then why am I supervised? Why are any of us surprised?
But a reckoning is coming....
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Old 9th Jun 2020, 15:43
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Another ME3 airline QR laid off it’s Technical staff and they were humiliated , people got to know when they were coming to work, a dude standing with lists and checking their staff numbers”
Slave mentality doesn’t go away.
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Old 9th Jun 2020, 15:46
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Shame on you Emirates. Shame on you. Half salary for 6 months. Fine. That was to save jobs, right? And this pig's breakfast today? Random people sacked? Absolutely disgusting treatment to so many decent, loyal folk. And absolutely no communication from the management at all. (Yet they informed the media!)
Future Pilots BEWARE. This company cares not one iota about you. You may have a stellar record. IT MEANS NOTHING. You may gain seniority. IT MEANS NOTHING. Any good you do...IT MEANS NOTHING.
People worldwide...I CAN confirm...The redundancies are completely random. Appalling.
Emirates...may you reap what you sow.
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Old 9th Jun 2020, 15:49
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The midnight emails so people couldn't sleep. The heavy security presence escorting people who just had their lives turned upside down out the back door. We trust you with millions of dollars and hundreds of lives but we don't REALLY trust you. These two things alone show the Hearltess and indeed Soulless place that the 9th floor has become. EK did a great disservice to themselves today let alone to the peole who made the airline great and made them money. This is a day that EK will not recover from.
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Old 9th Jun 2020, 15:59
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What a disaster. So many loyal and experienced employees.
What a shame!
Karma is a great equaliser.

Just wait for the EXPO 2020 fallout.
Its going to be epic!
Arrogance and stupidity personified.
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Old 9th Jun 2020, 16:47
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Originally Posted by roca
Honestly what do you expect; he is of the same group always posting bs against the company. And now just trying to create more havoc with such an infectious post. As all those idiots who claim they are happier since they left but they still have to keep logging into this forum to trash anyone who says something favorable pf the company or that other group that bi..ch incessantly about how unhappy they are here and how miserable is the company but don't have the cojones to say the same things during the washups or even leave the company
Roca and Rex Havoc,

Are you beginning to see what this company is about and why the posts here predominantly slag the company? Countless hundreds of examples of their " caring nature and people skills can be read about here.

ClassCbird, 777boyindubai and chockson as well as the many "idiots" who left and actually found better jobs and a life can testify as to the actual treatment of EK employees with factual precision, one just has to work there long enough.

As always, where there is smoke there is fire. That has always been the case in the Middle East.

Then, there are those with their heads in the sand.

This is indeed a sad day. There will be between 1/4 to a 1/3 of the pilots removed from the company via this cold and heartless fashion.I feel for those with families and mortgages and those who chose to make EK a career and their home.

Best of luck to all.
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Old 9th Jun 2020, 16:56
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Every airline in the world is laying off pilots but when Emirates does the same it becomes a moral outrage.

Explain.

I doubt you are capable of doing so.
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Old 9th Jun 2020, 17:06
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Originally Posted by Dropp the Pilot
Every airline in the world is laying off pilots but when Emirates does the same it becomes a moral outrage.

Explain.

I doubt you are capable of doing so.
wrong not every airline - only those lcc with the mindset like ek
not even Ryan air did so far
all other majors didn’t because they revive state aids which compensates for the loss of income upto 80%
lufthanse received 9beuro for the group
at least EU is doing something to protect jobs
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Old 9th Jun 2020, 17:11
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Originally Posted by Dropp the Pilot
Every airline in the world is laying off pilots but when Emirates does the same it becomes a moral outrage.

Explain.

I doubt you are capable of doing so.
and proudly our chairman announced 31 years of consecutive profit
and
no comm on the current situation as 1000 pilots and 10 times more cabin crew is losing their entire lives

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Old 9th Jun 2020, 17:29
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Originally Posted by The Outlaw
Roca and Rex Havoc,

Are you beginning to see what this company is about and why the posts here predominantly slag the company? Countless hundreds of examples of their " caring nature and people skills can be read about here.

ClassCbird, 777boyindubai and chockson as well as the many "idiots" who left and actually found better jobs and a life can testify as to the actual treatment of EK employees with factual precision, one just has to work there long enough.

As always, where there is smoke there is fire. That has always been the case in the Middle East.

Then, there are those with their heads in the sand.

This is indeed a sad day. There will be between 1/4 to a 1/3 of the pilots removed from the company via this cold and heartless fashion.I feel for those with families and mortgages and those who chose to make EK a career and their home.

Best of luck to all.
I think you need to pull your head out of your arse outlaw. Rex never said it wouldn't happen. He said stop posting unsubstantiated emotional BS. And so far he was right. The percentage of pilots let go is half of what was posted. Rex received his letter of redundancy today. He isn't bitching or wallowing in self pity, but rather concerned with how it will all play out for his work mates. Shame you can't do the same.

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Old 9th Jun 2020, 17:30
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And to rub it in a bit more, it would seem that as ou local colleagues are on a different contract, they are all on full pay while expats can bleed for 6 months....
I am disgusted at what is going on....
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Old 9th Jun 2020, 17:31
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Originally Posted by Emma Royds
My sentiments exactly. Today will be remembered as a day when those departing were let down by a process devoid of any compassion or empathy and has created more unanswered questions than it provided answers to.

For those that are fortunate enough to remain, (for the moment at least!) the dearth of communications from management will only elevate levels of anxiety and stress for many. Whilst that alone is highly undesirable, the fact we are not in routine flying practice only makes a precarious situation even worse.

To those coming to terms with this bad news, I wish you every ounce of luck and success and it was a pleasure to work alongside you.
Emma, you have done a great job of describing exactly what has happened and what is important.
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Old 9th Jun 2020, 17:32
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Originally Posted by Dropp the Pilot
Every airline in the world is laying off pilots but when Emirates does the same it becomes a moral outrage.

Explain.

I doubt you are capable of doing so.
I would say every EK pilot over time has accepted that job cuts were highly likely. There is no outrage that people have to go and it's sadly a byproduct of the times we are in. What leaves a sour taste in my mouth is how the process has been handled and the lack of communication to the entire pilot workforce. I am not expecting HR to open up and share all the finer details of this process but they could take a leaf out of EY's book and tell us that this round of cuts has finished, so those still employed can perhaps sleep a bit better.
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