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EK to Decommission 50%+ of Airbus A380, Axe 1/2 of Pilots & Cabin Crew

Old 18th May 2021, 16:14
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From the last few posts on magnificent savings made every month in EK, I would say you guys are well on your way to guaranteeing a pay cut. Just a thought.
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Old 18th May 2021, 18:10
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Based on what logic? That EK managers had no idea what their pilots were paid until it was posted on PPRuNe? lol

Salaries are based on market dynamics - supply and demand, so a little more rationally: yes, T&C could be under pressure with the current excess of unemployed pilots. But bear in the mind the reason for the glut is an externality, a once in a century global pandemic, and as that eases the pendulum swings the other way. I've been through a few such cycles and no, it isn't "different this time". Extreme and prolonged, yes. But don't let recency bias take hold and think this lasts forever.

From your "you guys" comment you evidently weren't able to take part in the "magnificent savings", better luck in the next boom.
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Old 19th May 2021, 05:06
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On the topic of money, given that Ramadan and the Eid break are now over, shouldn't the annual results be announced by now?
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Old 19th May 2021, 11:29
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If you are still flying, the year result has been amazing!
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Old 20th May 2021, 06:50
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This pretty much sums it up
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Old 20th May 2021, 16:27
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I think so - I'm pretty sure we normally hear something before now... End of the month maybe?
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Old 20th May 2021, 16:59
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To be announced next week apparently.
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Old 20th May 2021, 17:00
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Normally is the key word. I am sure if they could not ever post 2020-21 annual report they would do it. It is going to be an interesting read...
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Old 21st May 2021, 21:55
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What's to be that interesting? That the company has made a small fortune in aviation flying freight over the last 6 months after the first 6 months of COVID devastation?

That's not interesting at all.

We all know how to make a small fortune in aviation. Start with a large one.

Their comments will be all just forecasts. All forecasts are just complete guess work in this era of uncertainty. Don't get me wrong, I personally, hope the optimistic ones come true. But there'll be no hat hanging in my future.. I'll just hang on to it.. For Justin..
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Old 22nd May 2021, 03:55
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By all means, call me the pessimist but I suspect the company will have lost an enormous fortune rather than having made a small one. Prior to COVID, cargo represented less than 15% of the airline's total revenue.
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Old 22nd May 2021, 04:01
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In the past when not record breaking news it was kept low key . Just a corporate announcement with links to the details . I agree , more than likely a loss , to be expected as well.
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Old 22nd May 2021, 06:12
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It is only to see how they want to cover the obvious and honestly I want to see how much worth it was to ruin 1000s employees lives
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Old 22nd May 2021, 06:44
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It is a business, any business will try to cut costs as much as possible in such dire circumstances...I don't understand why you guys are taking it personally...
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Old 22nd May 2021, 07:40
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”personally”.... how could we not.
With a ****** up management team that rather destroys the life of a quarter of a loyal workforce instead of lowering the salary to say 60% and keeping everyone on.
Every one of us wouldn’t have had any problems surviving for 2 years on say... 30000AED.
As Simon Sinek said, “It’s better that we should all suffer a little than any of us should have to suffer a lot.”
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Old 22nd May 2021, 08:13
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Really!

So I work my ass off on the 777 all year for 60% salary whilst those on the big bird fleet sit around on 60% pay having bbq and enjoying life. That’s not even close to real world.

I have lost many good friends and have absolute sympathy and compassion for those suffering but let’s be realistic. EK is a business. They will do what they need to. And to keep harping on about dipping into reserves or comparing them to a European legacy is ridiculous. They can do as they wish.

if we don’t like, we have a choice. We knew what we joined
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Old 22nd May 2021, 09:04
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not so much what was done, more a matter of how it was done.

no integrity,
no class and
no compassion.
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Old 22nd May 2021, 09:23
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It is shocking they still kept majority of middle management doing pretty much nothing at all. Pilots make up an airline not middle management unless you work in the gulf. The sad part is - all that is left working and holding a job are not pilots nor engineers / just the sycophants. But it’s your fault you called in sick because if you didn’t safety would have been hampered. Who needs safety when you have wads of cash
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Old 22nd May 2021, 11:12
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Anybody know the numbers for the next culling ?
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Old 22nd May 2021, 11:25
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flyfast123

So you would rather everyone on the 380 fleet made redundant rather than even entertaining a temporary pay cut? That’s great. You are the embodiment of the issues in the Middle East. An embarrassment to the pilot community.
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Old 22nd May 2021, 11:33
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flyfast123

well, hopefully you’ll be on the correct fleet during the next downturn too and won’t be complaining when karma bites you on that overworked 777 ass.
Utterly disgusting that you couldn’t entertain a temporary paycut to keep colleagues in employment. Shame this forum isn’t anonymous when posters like you come along.
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