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EK to Decommission 50%+ of Airbus A380, Axe 1/2 of Pilots & Cabin Crew

Old 31st May 2020, 16:45
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Sad news - at least the company are protecting their visa and accommodation until they can return to their home countries. Thought they could be more generous than 14 days pay though.
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Old 31st May 2020, 16:57
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Sadly it's true.

All pilots on probation plus for now an additional 100 approx. Total number laid off is around 270. Across 380 and 777.

They will be paid until June 15th and Emirates will assist where re-patriation may prove difficult at this time.

I know guys who's things are still on the boat on the way out to Dubai, and they will be gone before their belongings even show up and have to be sent back again.

It's a mess. Rumour is lots more redundancies to be announced but for today, that is it.
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Old 31st May 2020, 16:59
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Publishing negative news is not within the remit for Corp Comms so at best, there may be a few words from departmental heads but it would not surprise me if we hear nothing at all. You could be forgiven for thinking Saddam's Information Minister 'Comical Ali' is moonlighting as a PR consultant to EK.

I hope I am proved wrong but the next edition of the Life of Brian will probably be full of the joys of life whilst extolling the virtues of the new 777 roof rack modification. Meanwhile, there are some colleagues who found out today that they will no longer have a job in 14 days time and will probably barely get mentioned. I hope management don't bury their heads in the sand with this issue, as is often custom in these parts of the world.
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Old 31st May 2020, 22:15
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Good luck to one and all....
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Old 1st Jun 2020, 00:24
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Originally Posted by Capn Rex Havoc View Post
ECHOKILLER - Piss poor tasteless stressful factually devoid alarmist post. Why don't you be a good boy/girl and remove it.

The author is sooooooo full of credibility. Not
“Factually devoid” you reckon Rex-mate? You are probably the only one on this forum who could not see this coming! Sorry, I am being unfair, roca also couldn’t!

My sympathy goes out to all the good folks who received the bad news today. This has happened to me twice already, so my thoughts are with you!
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Old 1st Jun 2020, 00:25
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With reduced flying all round but only the A380 fleet being affected by decommissioning it would seem that this fleet would be most impacted by the layoffs. Any idea percentage wise A380 vs B777, will the reductions be for pilots.

Cabin crew are likely to be dual fleet rated and if not, are easy to qualify on a different type so seniority is easier to implement.
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Old 1st Jun 2020, 03:44
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I feel for all those who got the letter. whether they'd just got here. had "almost" finished training or were close to finishing probation! . Being far from home and not being sure how and when they will get back and what will be waiting back at home is not a nice situation. So maybe try to temper the sentiment here and give support to any you know.

So we have a rough idea of pilot numbers but anybody know roughly how many cabin crew got the letter? I hear that those with contracts that are up for renewal are only getting a 2 month extension. It will put some perspective on the numbers cut.

Take care out there
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Old 1st Jun 2020, 06:23
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“Factually devoid” you reckon Rex-mate? You are probably the only one on this forum who could not see this coming!
I never stated that there would be no firings, I was objecting to to the initial posters alarmist claim that 1/3 of Pilots and Cabin crew will be sacked. 1/3 of pilots is approx 1350, and I don't see that it will be that high. I was also protesting the validity of the source of this initial rumour.

My heart goes out to the affected colleagues, I have been at 2 former airlines that went bankrupt,(both operating 146s coincidently) it is a terrible terrible time.
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Old 1st Jun 2020, 08:19
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Originally Posted by Capn Rex Havoc View Post
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I never stated that there would be no firings, I was objecting to to the initial posters alarmist claim that 1/3 of Pilots and Cabin crew will be sacked. 1/3 of pilots is approx 1350, and I don't see that it will be that high. I was also protesting the validity of the source of this initial rumour.

My heart goes out to the affected colleagues, I have been at 2 former airlines that went bankrupt,(both operating 146s coincidently) it is a terrible terrible time.
Don't worry REX, most understood what you meant.

Sad day for ground staff in Australia. This virus is ruining more lives of the healthy than those of the sick.

Now is the time to stick together and look after each other. The only thing different between those losing a job and those that didn't is a date of joining at the moment.

Rumour has it the last of the cabin crew will hear about there fate today. They have been told they can be rehired when things improve.

Let's hope we get some type of communication from the company soon.

PS. The number of pilots with contracts terminated is not as high as the numbers posted several posts above. The news is bad enough without making stuff up. Let's just stick with facts. They are incredibly hard to come by when fleet etc have gone silent.

Do we still have chief pilots etc? If a line pilot displayed the communication skills of the Muppets they would be sent away for retraining.
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Old 1st Jun 2020, 10:20
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Originally Posted by Jet II View Post
at least the company are protecting their visa and accommodation until they can return to their home countries.

Thought they could be more generous than 14 days pay though
Accommodation and visa costs them nothing but possibly gains them some extra credits in the post-Ramadan afterglow. Someone's head will now need to roll for having gambled away half a salary for those 200. Maybe they plan to recover it in rent charges and visa fines for those unable to depart on time.
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Old 1st Jun 2020, 10:56
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Originally Posted by FatPilot View Post
Accommodation and visa costs them nothing but possibly gains them some extra credits in the post-Ramadan afterglow. Someone's head will now need to roll for having gambled away half a salary for those 200. Maybe they plan to recover it in rent charges and visa fines for those unable to depart on time.
This is not the time for BS comments like this. These families have enough to deal with without having to hear false statements. Try and at least pretend to have some empathy for what is happening.
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Old 1st Jun 2020, 13:37
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Originally Posted by FatPilot View Post
Accommodation and visa costs them nothing but possibly gains them some extra credits in the post-Ramadan afterglow. Someone's head will now need to roll for having gambled away half a salary for those 200. Maybe they plan to recover it in rent charges and visa fines for those unable to depart on time.
That is not fair - those that cannot leave are being allowed to stay in their company accommodation (or keep getting their accommodation allowance) and keep their Visa past the 14 days notice and they will get a subsistence payment from the company of 25% until they can leave.

I think that is fair and the only thing I would like to have seen is a 30 day notice.
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Old 1st Jun 2020, 16:30
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Agree with jet2.
why would heads roll and what is your solution FP.
I'm afraid more to come , how and when is anyone's guess .
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Old 2nd Jun 2020, 06:14
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Originally Posted by fatbus View Post
Agree with jet2.
why would heads roll and what is your solution FP.
I'm afraid more to come , how and when is anyone's guess .
Are you referring to the industry, Norwegian or EK fatty?
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Old 2nd Jun 2020, 07:42
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Old 2nd Jun 2020, 19:43
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Its no rocket science that downsizing is coming” Head counts will be reduced unfortunately...
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Old 2nd Jun 2020, 22:27
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Originally Posted by EchoKilla View Post
STC is due to address the Group on Monday - will be interesting to see by the usual email or a forum....

What did he say?
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Old 3rd Jun 2020, 04:57
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It wasnt an internal convo as one would have wished. But TC will be an advisor imminently for EK and since I have caused a stir for even starting this post to get it thru everyone's head that more cuts are on their way. The fact that I still sit here in DXB wishing myself I dont get that "call"....

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN2381Q8


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What did he say?
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Old 3rd Jun 2020, 06:17
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Originally Posted by EchoKilla View Post
It wasnt an internal convo as one would have wished. But TC will be an advisor imminently for EK and since I have caused a stir for even starting this post to get it thru everyone's head that more cuts are on their way. The fact that I still sit here in DXB wishing myself I dont get that "call"....

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN2381Q8
Echo, keep on posting, in this big cone of silence, any morsel of news is welcome. I am always amazed to see the reaction towards the messengers delivering possible warnings! It does not have to be 100% accurate, but where there is smoke.........at least one is able better prepare (brace) for what is coming.

When I started in this airline business a long time ago, one of the wise old-timers told me that nothing ever turns out as good or as bad as it initially looks. So, just make your preparations keeping above mentioned wisdom in mind and the outcome should be better than sticking your head in the sand. Only listening to good news will ruin us.
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Old 4th Jun 2020, 08:40
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Does anyone know who the chief pilot of the Bus fleet is at EK? We haven't heard anything from him/her, nor anyone else really, and I am hoping they are all ok.
Thought I should send an email to check on how they are going, and update them on how the pilot group is going.

A great chance to interact with the pilot group.....wasted. Must be too busy checking sick days and productivity stats.
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