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EK to Decommission 50%+ of Airbus A380, Axe 1/2 of Pilots & Cabin Crew

Old 8th Oct 2020, 10:09
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Are they still making crew redundant? Will it continue for 2021?
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Old 8th Oct 2020, 10:13
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In such an unpredictable manner in which they're letting people go... who knows, depends on how they wake up feeling each day.
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Old 8th Oct 2020, 12:09
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They are making FD redundant so I would be surprised if they are not doing the same for the crew.

The difference is that crew historically joined almost weekly, courses through training college were running like a sausage machine. Unlike FD, crew are on 3 year contracts and as such there are crew reaching the end of their 3 year contract at the same pace as they joined. That is convenient for the company since they dont need to make them redundant since they just allow the contract to expire and bad publicity is avoided.

As for will it continue into 2021, who knows.......
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Old 8th Oct 2020, 12:34
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Ground staff at LHR told a crew friend that the 2 380 flights will be replaced with 777 from 29 October. Meaning the 380 looks like it might not be operating at all until March 21
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Old 8th Oct 2020, 14:37
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Originally Posted by Icarus2001 View Post
I am just imaging how slow the bottleneck of recruitment will be on the other side of all this. The ramp up is going to take a while.
Specially since pretty much all of the recruitment team has been made redundant as well. Could well take up to a year to bring new people on the moment they decide to.
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Old 8th Oct 2020, 15:14
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Emirates will be a shell of it's former self, so I wouldn't lose any sleep over the recruitment team being AWOL.
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Old 8th Oct 2020, 18:26
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I hope nobody thinks that we get a sim check to revalidate the TR just before we leave because they are so human loving people

it’s gonna be easy new TnC a phone call followed by a medical 5 sim session for being out for than 120 days and all by the sudden someone will fly again

thats Timmy’s deepest plan - because we all are coming back
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Old 9th Oct 2020, 00:30
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Any airline retrenching pilots can overshoot the required number without worrying too much as there will be so many looking for jobs and the recovery will be gradual, giving plenty of time for recruitment and training.

A quick bounce back in a time of shortage would require much more careful planning.
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Old 9th Oct 2020, 03:53
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Just saw in the news Arabtec the UAE's biggest construction company has filed for liquidation. So even staff who were retrenched wont even get their EOSB anymore. At least EK gave EOSB to their retrenched staff. Things are really brutal out there.....
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Old 9th Oct 2020, 04:29
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What is S&D ?
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Old 9th Oct 2020, 05:49
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I think the reference may be to another Dubai construction firm, Drake & Scull, which is reportedly under UAE bankruptcy & seeking an agreement with its creditors.
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Old 9th Oct 2020, 12:42
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Oceanic, thanks for picking up my slip...
indeed as O said...
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Old 11th Oct 2020, 03:01
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How many 380s are in long term storage?

Iíve heard only a handful are flying at EK.
And the pilots are being thrown out.
Well, ex-pats anyway.
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Old 19th Oct 2020, 08:41
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Just wanted to keep this thread at the top and cause more aggro to the muppets at EGHQ.

Spoke to a friend last night in Dubai. Just when you think that EK (mis)Management can't get lower than a snake's belly, they achieve the impossible again. Some colleagues that have been sacked/made redundant, requested that they be able to stay in Dubai on the EK Visa but at their own expense, in order to allow their kids to finish important school years. The reply from the garbage that infests the Puzzle Palace was we will have to think about it. Imagine what those poor kids and families must be going through and now this. Remember that Ahmed the Liar and Timi the Liar always told us that people were the most important asset of the airline.....

Another friend attended the clinic in SZR. Only 1 doctor there..... Those that know will know the doctor wife of NW was also just terminated. Quality people.

Additionally, I have been asked to contact some friends in the media and ask them WHY just A380 Pilot losses of 1400 out of 2000 or so and 16000 Cabin Crew losses have not had publicity in the media. I will certainly be doing so.

As my Dubai based friends will attest there WERE some top end training guys (and girls) until they got rid of 85 of them with the exception of a lone female European who:

1 Failed her upgrade then passed it
2 Then 6 months later gets downgraded
3 Then scapes through in Jan....

It does raise some question about Wastaa!

I feel the pain of all of you treated like dirt and will do whatever I can to show EK for what they are.

Last edited by 777boyindubai; 19th Oct 2020 at 08:43. Reason: I put 200 instead of 2000, I am so shocked
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Old 19th Oct 2020, 10:31
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A European in the Middle East with Wasta? That has to be some serious high level connections. Shocking what has happened in EK, I guess the 777 crews must be counting their blessings to have escaped relatively unscathed
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Old 19th Oct 2020, 22:14
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Many sub standard ( overall 3)were "missed" while a huge number of good( overall 4) drivers chopped . I know the overall grade not used but you get the point!
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Old 20th Oct 2020, 01:39
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The standard grade is to be smart enough not to ask stupid questions.
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Old 20th Oct 2020, 08:43
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QNH1013 ; "Europeans in the ME with "wasta" - Oh yes, believe it. Many, many, many.
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Old 20th Oct 2020, 09:38
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SHE has Wastaa. Not many supported by virtue of her work skills. No issue with being female. But very very questionable SIMs and upgrade performance or lack of.

The mind boggles....
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Old 20th Oct 2020, 16:44
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It might surprise you, but many men have also failed the upgrade or been demoted and subsequently passed. I'm not so salty that i'd start naming them to make myself feel better.

But knowing the ins and outs of her career, you seem like quite the follower.
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