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EK to Decommission 50%+ of Airbus A380, Axe 1/2 of Pilots & Cabin Crew

Old 17th Jun 2020, 09:16
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Originally Posted by Emma Royds View Post
It's irrelevant if you are directly employed or are a contractor in an airline in Asia where the minority of the workforce are ex-pats, as the ex-pat will always be the first to suffer in the tough times. I would rather be with a contract agency, as at least there is an intermediary that you can liaise with. If you were employed directly, I doubt any local pilot union would be willing to make much effort to look after ex-pats who are on more generous terms and conditions, at the expense of their own peers.
partially agree with you, however, ‘local pilot unions’ don’t really exist, although the various associations like to think of themselves as unions, they have absolutely no pull. Fact of the matter is Asia lacks ‘local’ experience, expats will be required in Asian/ far eastern airlines for years to come. If you would rather work for an agency, so be it, but don’t complain when your contract is simply cancelled because you are no longer required.

we are getting away from the original question, unpaid leave HAS been offered in many far eastern airlines, and some have introduced salary adjustments, but none have handled their crew the way emirates has the past two weeks...
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Old 17th Jun 2020, 15:23
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Originally Posted by fly1981 View Post
where did I say cx crew were employed through agencies? Those are airlines that don’t employ necessarily though agencies.
In your post #276.

With respect to unpaid leave, however, you are correct.
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Old 18th Jun 2020, 05:16
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Apparently more CC in "meetings" today, email went out last night. Number unknown as yet
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Old 18th Jun 2020, 12:16
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Are pilots still getting meeting requests?
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Old 18th Jun 2020, 12:24
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They're axing long term crew with clean records and juniors seem to be less targeted... have heard from three friends still in EK, all over a certain time in their grade, all with "good" records, minimal SK so the only motivator would seem to be cost or spite... or both

Seems there might be merit to the "reduce costs for later & can the expensive PUR/CSV/FG1/GR1" theory.. .
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Old 18th Jun 2020, 12:37
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Lots of office staff have been given the letter today. Heard around 40% of finance and another 750 in IT (on top of the ones from last week). Also whole departments are being let go.
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Old 18th Jun 2020, 13:13
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And where is the management leadership in all of this? Conspicuous in their absence !!!
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Old 18th Jun 2020, 13:36
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To be fair what do you expect them to say? would you even trust them if they said "done"?
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Old 18th Jun 2020, 14:03
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The "leadership" in EK is taking credit for success and hiding when it comes to taking responsibility for failure.

Success = STC; Failure = oil prices, coronavirus, A380, geopolitical uncertainty, world economy, China slowdown, in short, anything but the senior ek management.
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Old 18th Jun 2020, 21:18
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You forgot fluctuations in the Rouble, the Zloti cratering against the US dollar and of course a market oversupply in Pork belly’s
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Old 18th Jun 2020, 21:31
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800 crew were fired today. Also a number of CCM’s before they were pushed.
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Old 19th Jun 2020, 04:29
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Hmmm

Originally Posted by Capn Rex Havoc View Post
My Hainan mate said Hainan is paying him 25k US a year at the moment sort of like a retention pay.
Yeah and the water coolers now have champagne at HNA HQ. Your Mate is pulling your leg or something. There is no retention pay at HNA. I Love HNA and can’t wait to get back to my old paycheck.It is the best company I ever worked for and the nicest people to work with. Never looked back at leaving EK.
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Old 19th Jun 2020, 13:25
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Originally Posted by 777boyindubai View Post
800 crew were fired today. Also a number of CCM’s before they were pushed.
What is the total number of layoff's then? It sounds like about 1500 if you add the 700 or so from last week.

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Old 19th Jun 2020, 14:25
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Is it 800 cabin crew or flight crew?
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Old 19th Jun 2020, 14:31
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Originally Posted by 777boyindubai View Post
800 crew were fired today. Also a number of CCM’s before they were pushed.
Yes also a lot of the HR department,Scheduling and some CCM and some of their coordinators. Mostly the senior ranking ones it seems. The ones who were in EK from the very early days. Just hearing here and there from people now. I think most people over 50 have accepted their fate and if they were not called in they are very lucky. I wish them all the best of luck.
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Old 20th Jun 2020, 11:27
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Shame .....

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Old 20th Jun 2020, 12:46
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I totally agree Nick He was a brand ambassador, and always professional and enthusiastic about his job. Unbelievable
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Old 20th Jun 2020, 13:36
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I totally agree Nick He was a brand ambassador, and always professional and enthusiastic about his job. Unbelievable ? meaning
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Old 20th Jun 2020, 17:55
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He got booted together with other great crew who absolutely didnt deserve any of it
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Old 21st Jun 2020, 01:47
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Not sure that any of the tens of thousands of airline staff around the globe who are losing their jobs actually 'deserve it'

Very sad days for all.
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