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EK A380 or A320 command really confused

Old 28th Apr 2019, 21:52
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There is no doubt - Take the command on the A320!!

Once you have over 500 PIC hours, then you are a lot more employable for other DEC roles.
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Old 2nd May 2019, 09:39
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Originally Posted by Payscale View Post
Hope you noticed that people advising you on your career move all talk about their mates experiences. Not their own.
Advice is only as good as the one dispensing it..
Find someone with Middle East experience in your present company and ask them.

Good luck
And they will probably give him the same advise.
PIC hours are valuable, even if he decides to join EK in a few years after getting his command. They will be even more valuable if he decides to leave EK, like so many pilots have already done, including me.

If heís close to an upgrade, turning it down now is not the best option. If heís not close to an upgrade, and he wants a change in career for whatever reason, EK might be an option. I never regretted going to EK, it gave me some valuable experience on my CV, but I donít regret leaving either.
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Old 3rd May 2019, 05:09
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Get your command and learn how to make a decision.
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Old 3rd May 2019, 05:38
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Originally Posted by Bus Driver Man View Post

And they will probably give him the same advise.
PIC hours are valuable, even if he decides to join EK in a few years after getting his command. They will be even more valuable if he decides to leave EK, like so many pilots have already done, including me.

If heís close to an upgrade, turning it down now is not the best option. If heís not close to an upgrade, and he wants a change in career for whatever reason, EK might be an option. I never regretted going to EK, it gave me some valuable experience on my CV, but I donít regret leaving either.
Thats it .. everybodyís interested when you had been working for EK. I donít understand why ... ! EK does some things good and in some things they are behind the industries standards. Thatís it.

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Old 9th May 2019, 13:28
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I'll try and give you a balanced view according to my limited 17 years in this business.

A320 PIC....right now I dont think there is a more valuable position you can be in. The 737 is a close 2nd and I'll bet the A220 will soon gain huge popularity and challenge both of those I previously mentioned. Being a Captain for any airline is challenging and you remain ultimately where the buck stops, and rightly so, since any manager will expect that with the paycheck it comes with.

A380 EK FO.....again right now I don't think there is an easier position to be in at EK. I emphasize that is it "right now", because having been working here for 11 years, I have seen it changed from fleet to fleet and position to position numerous times. With A330s coming back in 2021 and depending how they will man the 777x next year, it remains anyone's guess what fleet will enjoy the best lifestyle going forward a few years, and upgrades will depend greatly on that. There is no such thing as total job security, but in my time here, not once have I worried about my job nor not got paid on time.

Contrarily to what some people believe; bankruptcies, furloughs, secondments, fleet reductions etc. will NEVER disappear! In fact, the last 12 months have seen these very issues return after a reletive lengthy calm. As others have mentioned, its all about the end game; no one can determine where, what, how you live your life better than these kind of decisions you have to make. The honeymoon might be soon over again as global economies' growth certainly show signs of slowing, so the successful question will be how best you suit yourself for those times.
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Old 10th May 2019, 23:49
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Originally Posted by 777-200LR View Post
I'll try and give you a balanced view according to my limited 17 years in this business.

A320 PIC....right now I dont think there is a more valuable position you can be in. The 737 is a close 2nd and I'll bet the A220 will soon gain huge popularity and challenge both of those I previously mentioned. Being a Captain for any airline is challenging and you remain ultimately where the buck stops, and rightly so, since any manager will expect that with the paycheck it comes with.

A380 EK FO.....again right now I don't think there is an easier position to be in at EK. I emphasize that is it "right now", because having been working here for 11 years, I have seen it changed from fleet to fleet and position to position numerous times. With A330s coming back in 2021 and depending how they will man the 777x next year, it remains anyone's guess what fleet will enjoy the best lifestyle going forward a few years, and upgrades will depend greatly on that. There is no such thing as total job security, but in my time here, not once have I worried about my job nor not got paid on time.

Contrarily to what some people believe; bankruptcies, furloughs, secondments, fleet reductions etc. will NEVER disappear! In fact, the last 12 months have seen these very issues return after a reletive lengthy calm. As others have mentioned, its all about the end game; no one can determine where, what, how you live your life better than these kind of decisions you have to make. The honeymoon might be soon over again as global economies' growth certainly show signs of slowing, so the successful question will be how best you suit yourself for those times.
Thats one way of looking it. Thank you for the valuable input.
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Old 12th May 2019, 15:17
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Unless you want to print money in the far east or trade your life for money in the Locos, NEVER become a narrow body captain.

1. You'll fly to all the shitty destinations, bad atc, wx.
2. You'll fly 100 plus hours of turns and nights month after month.
3. Your contracts will keep changing.
4.then finally the ever lasting risk that you'll become an FO again.

If you are going to stay In EU, upgrading would be the best choice as others have said .

If you are unhappy, and want to move some where else, especially in the ME, getting into a wide body rhs as soon as you can, would be your best choice. You and your family will be much happier.
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Old 15th May 2019, 08:15
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If "Del" in your location stands for New Delhi, then you and your family will have a much better quality of life in the ME.
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Old 15th May 2019, 15:42
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Originally Posted by Aiza View Post
Unless you want to print money in the far east or trade your life for money in the Locos, NEVER become a narrow body captain.

1. You'll fly to all the shitty destinations, bad atc, wx.
2. You'll fly 100 plus hours of turns and nights month after month.
3. Your contracts will keep changing.
4.then finally the ever lasting risk that you'll become an FO again.
Mate have you been paying attention? (With the caveat I observed this from the position of a CC, I spent the larger part of a decade over there)

1. There's a lot of that in EK too
2. Have you seen the hours EK guys are flying? 90+ combined with ULR will do that and worse.
3. See point 1.
4. Also see point 1. Ask the guys who got screwed over relatively small issues how they're going as FOs again. And then of course if you're flying with a local and something goes wrong, who has the bigger chance of getting canned? Hint: probably not him/her
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Old 15th May 2019, 17:05
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Another thing to consider. How many times has your company given you a pay rise in the last, say, 4 years?
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