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Old 7th Aug 2018, 16:20
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QR Resignation Tips

Similar to EKs topic but dedicated to QR.

Planning my resignation for the next 6 months, my understanding is that a 3 months notice is required by the company. Is there any advantage to give them a longer notice or should I stick to the minimum and let them know just 3 moths prior to the date I'm leaving?

All my leaves have been assigned already, is there a way to re-accommodate them in such a way to reduce the 3 months notice? Or maybe work thru out the entire notice and have them paying me the untaken leaves?

All kinds of tips are welcome.

Thank you.

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Old 8th Aug 2018, 14:44
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Not Qatar related but the 3 months notice is a contractual obligation from both sides.

If you chose to waive your 3 months notice (and 3 months salary) and your employer agrees to do the same you can leave immediately - nothing is set in stone.
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Old 8th Aug 2018, 15:49
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Thank you gentlemen, will then wait another 3 months to give my notice. Not sure where I'll be heading yet but happy to leave, this place killed my pilot soul.

Best regards.
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Old 8th Aug 2018, 22:05
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On another note. Banks require 45 days to completely cancel your credit cards. Could even be more, this was just my bank. They will not release your all clear letter for the airline until after the 45 days waiting period.

I find that the biggest obstacle in leaving is usually the bank. I only found out about the credit card only after probing my bank manager. They usually hide or forget to give you key information until you probe deeper. Explain all the products you have and ask them what effect it will have in getting a clearance letter. That letter is your key to getting your end of service bonus

All the best with your new job. Safe landings.
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Old 8th Aug 2018, 23:54
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Leaving Qatar

Originally Posted by Airmann View Post
On another note. Banks require 45 days to completely cancel your credit cards. Could even be more, this was just my bank. They will not release your all clear letter for the airline until after the 45 days waiting period.

I find that the biggest obstacle in leaving is usually the bank. I only found out about the credit card only after probing my bank manager. They usually hide or forget to give you key information until you probe deeper. Explain all the products you have and ask them what effect it will have in getting a clearance letter. That letter is your key to getting your end of service bonus

All the best with your new job. Safe landings.
Not only the banks and their credit cards. If you own a vehicle, that has to be cleared off your ID. Your Mobile/Internet/TV must be cleared...if you are on a pre-pay with carriers, there shouldn't be any issues. Water/electric must be cleared. Everyone wants a no=objection letter! It's easier to get into that acidic place than it is to leave. Also, make sure that your money is transferred out of the country before leaving. Trying to deal with the 'experts' over the phone is next to impossible.
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Old 9th Aug 2018, 08:08
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No advantage

When you do resign you should meet your fleet management , in my experience after my 9 years they just accept your letter and no small talk . ( i.e where are you going or wishing you well )

Having said that a decision well made was to leave. Now on a commuting contract 3 trips per month plus 10 consec days off earning more money. Asia based.

Good luck leaving.
interested to know where you went flying what aircraft type
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Old 9th Aug 2018, 10:01
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Great tips there, already payed my loan in full but was not aware of the credit card 45 days waiting time, will ask my manager about that... maybe the company will give me a list of all documents needed to clear me out of the country?

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Old 9th Aug 2018, 12:33
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Originally Posted by lfbb View Post
Great tips there, already payed my loan in full but was not aware of the credit card 45 days waiting time, will ask my manager about that... maybe the company will give me a list of all documents needed to clear me out of the country?

Thank you.
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Old 11th Aug 2018, 17:50
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Leaving Qatar




I had seen various emails about the whole exit process leaving Qatar and thought I would write my own account to help you out.




A little bit of background info First Officer B777, Three years six months, no car, no company accommodation, no family in Doha, no cargo required, no credit card and I was is in the ISP




I had a fairly straight forward time and it wasn’t too taxing. It wasn’t as easy as leaving my previous UK airline (do your last flight, drop the uniform off and your done) However with a bit of awareness and being on the ball it can be done fairly easy.




So first thing first. You need to resign. 90 day notice period plus some days to exit are required. Now the fun starts, my future airline gave me about 91 days notice before starting and I needed to resign ASAP. The problem was Thursday afternoon and you cannot email the resignation letter, you need to go to the fleet office and physically hand it in. This caused some concerns as I was tight on time and off to Chicago the following day. I ended up giving 86 days notice (no problems however you pay for 4 days!). You’ll be asked to collect an ‘acceptance of resignation’ letter a week or so later along with the signature form.




You need to cancel credit cards at least a month before (I didn’t have a credit card or bank loan so very easy).




I emailed ISP admin (very helpful) and they send me a form about cashing in the ISP very early on. You wont get the money until a couple weeks after you exit Qatar.




Sadly there is not much you can do during the first couple of months until you get your last roster. After my last staff travel trip I paid a visit to staff travel at the villa 15 for refunds to be paid and during that time as them to sign my form - form signed signature 1 complete!




During the same day I visited Tower 2 letter collection place on the corner and asked about the US visa cancellation. She told me to come back after my last US trip and they would book an appointment for me. They were extremely helpful and I asked for her email address. I emailed after my last US trip and gave her a list of possible days I could go to collect. She did tell me that the embassy only accepts people on certain days of the week so best to get this sorted as soon as you can. Another visit to tower 2 before the appointment to collect the US embassy letter for cancellation.




I wasn’t in company accommodation either to paid a visit to tower 3 (the sun dial looking place), another signature.




A week or so before my last flight and more importantly after your last standard end of the month pay day. I visited HSBC to ask for a clearance letter (you need this to exit) and account closure form. HSBC will close my account after 30 days of the balance being zero or I believe you can leave it open if you really want too.




Last roster - appointment booked for US embassy. Letter collected from tower 2.




Roster changed which meant my appointment for US embassy had to be changed. I emailed the ladies in tower 2 and she booked my appointment for a Wednesday morning......slight stress my last trip freighter from PVG arrived at 6:10am. Thursday appointment not available so if I miss it Sunday which would have delayed my exit from the country.




Luckily we arrived on time. I went straight to the embassy (no bags etc). I was there at 7:15am and waited. Your last priority as cancelling the visa is a QR policy and not US embassy. A long wait and frustration I was done by 9:15am. Straight back to the Marriott to collect my Logbook, IPad and case, charger and cable, locker key and off to the QROC. I visited the library (which is near cabin crew briefing rooms) to drop off iPad etc and locker key. A trip upstairs to the fleet office and I waited for the form to be signed. The VPFO was in a meeting so I had to wait. I didn’t have to see the VPFO personally. During the wait I had my log book stamped and HR exit interview which was literally 2 mins of what could we improve on. I also asked for a letter of no accident incident a week prior and collected the letter. Finally I was out at 1230pm.




Off to the Marriott again to collect my uniform, token, passport, allianz cards, bank letter, ID. First stop uniforms - they want everything back and I mean everything....well..except the shoes! I didn’t have a set of epaulettes, a pair of wings was missing along with tie pins and the leather gloves......the charge to me 97QAR. A friend the previous week didn’t have his pilot case (340QAR charge), my case was broken, they don’t care, they just want it back.




Next stop tower 3 to drop the computer token off and then back across the road to Villa 9 security to give then the ID card along with lanyard.




Now to Tower 1 3rd floor to separations (no ID so temporary pass and they use your Qatar RP card as guarantee) They want the passport, and want to see visa cancellation stamp. Bank letter, Allianz cards. Once that is done, they’ll tell you when you can book your ticket home (eco upgradeable to biz) and give you a piece of paper. Back to staff travel (a short walk) to book your confirmed ticket.




I finally finished around 2.30pm on Wednesday afternoon and Flight booked home on Tuesday morning. I have to go back on the Monday to collect passport and I presume the final settlement etc. A much needed beer at the Marriott and I slept really well! It can be done on one day I did it !
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Old 11th Aug 2018, 21:09
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I did it !
Congrats on your new job and best of luck!!!! Where are you going??? Any advice for pilots interested in trying Qatar?
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Old 11th Aug 2018, 22:25
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If you have important stuff on company email get it NOW, as they kill your company iPad and email in the dead of the night a few weeks before you leave, and you will NOT get access to it again before you leave.

I was made to sign a form waiving all legal claims in Qatar or abroad against "Qatar Airways and its assignee's". Refusing to do so would have meant my final gratuity payment would not have been made. As the final gratuity payment is a state benefit defined in Qatar Labour Law, making me sign that form is probably illegal....but when did fairness ever bother them
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Old 12th Aug 2018, 09:12
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Jeez, that sounds like something an Indian might have devised!

I suppose that's one reason jumping ship at a foreign port is still popular ...
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Old 13th Aug 2018, 10:13
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Great stuff there Jinkster, very useful information. Looking forward to handover my resignation and start the whole process. Did you get to keep your licenses? I still have no other job in mind but Im sure keeping them would make my life easier in the future.... if I decide to go back flying. Lol

Regards,

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Old 16th Aug 2018, 21:55
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lfbb, the licence belongs to you so yes i did.
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Old 17th Aug 2018, 17:11
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Before handing my resignation I'm considering taking some time off to make sure that's what I really want, does anyone have any idea if unpaid leave for a sabbatical would be considered by the company? Don't really wanna ask RH right now but planning to put that on the table along with my resignation, wonder if the company has any policy regarding that.

Thank you.
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Old 18th Aug 2018, 04:57
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Jeez, that sounds like something an Indian might have devised!

I suppose that's one reason jumping ship at a foreign port is still popular ...
I am sorry but I hate Indians especially when they are my bosses .
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Old 18th Aug 2018, 11:58
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Originally Posted by lfbb View Post
Before handing my resignation I'm considering taking some time off to make sure that's what I really want, does anyone have any idea if unpaid leave for a sabbatical would be considered by the company? Don't really wanna ask RH right now but planning to put that on the table along with my resignation, wonder if the company has any policy regarding that.

Thank you.
Sabbatical. You dreaming mate. Don't even try .
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Old 18th Aug 2018, 13:54
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I believe you can return in one year.
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Old 19th Aug 2018, 11:00
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Got it... thank you all!
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Old 20th Aug 2018, 15:58
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If you are so desperate and want leave before your bond expires you can "sacrifice" your ISP/EOSB in order to cut 50%of waiting time. I've been doing this kind of math for the past couple of months…
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