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Emirates 3 crew long haul destinations this Summer

Old 24th May 2018, 13:32
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Still three too many. If the object was to require less crew for the summer schedule will 3 flights with one F/O less really make that much difference or is it just a case of backtracking while trying to save face?
I wonder if the regulator(s) had a hand in getting it changed?
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Old 24th May 2018, 13:32
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Wow, I so surprised that the AUS destinations have been pulled. It's almost like the regulatory authority downunder had some input. Well done CASA. Next for the FAA to step up and stop this lunacy.
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Old 24th May 2018, 15:59
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I suspect it will start with 3 and them ramp up to the rest!!
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Old 24th May 2018, 18:00
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It amazes me that people who said they are leaving years ago are still in EK and dont have the balls to leave, do you really think it will get better? Its a pilots market out there if you cant get a better job now then just bend over and take it like a man.
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Old 24th May 2018, 20:30
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I’ve just read that the unmentionable down the road from you guys is implementing a new crew management system for scheduling and planning to “save costs and increase flexibility” or something along those lines. Sounds like they’re hurting for crew as well?

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Old 24th May 2018, 20:59
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So it seems the feedback to BBJ got us from 7 to 3.

From those I’ve spoken to - it now looks like the feedback will bypass the Co and go straight the National authorities.

Can’t help but wonder if they have misread the commitment.

Anyway notwithstanding the above disagreements between the two parties - if you have any safety concerns let the authorities be the arbiter.

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Old 24th May 2018, 21:12
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I would say that BBJ's tone in this week's update has gone from patronising, last week, to snippy.
Next week Brian will tell us how lucky we are.................again!
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Old 25th May 2018, 00:48
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Originally Posted by GoreTex View Post
It amazes me that people who said they are leaving years ago are still in EK and dont have the balls to leave, do you really think it will get better? Its a pilots market out there if you cant get a better job now then just bend over and take it like a man.

Some pilots like it here and some pilots are stuck here. Either way the pilots that are actually leaving really aren’t going to make a difference in helping the cause.
In answer to your above question, no I do not think it’s going to get better here and when a man bends over and takes it he is not a man but a homosexual.
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Old 25th May 2018, 01:10
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Sorry to disagree with you BUT a homosexual is still a man even if you Don't like it and hurts your manhood….
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Old 25th May 2018, 02:16
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Brian sounds a bit angry this week!
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Old 25th May 2018, 07:19
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Originally Posted by dustyflightdeck View Post
Brian sounds a bit angry this week!
That tends to happen when your subjects rip off the rose tinted glasses your boss shoved over your puerile nose.
Nothing worse for a hopeless leader than having the truth irreversibly exposed, because you have to deal with it now.
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Old 25th May 2018, 09:07
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To be known as Three Crew Tyrrell. The C can of course mean other things as well .
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Old 25th May 2018, 09:55
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Brian is definitely under pressure judging by this weeks update. Numerous spelling and grammatical errors additionally one geopolitical clanger. Rangoon was was changed to Yangon in 1989, but then one might not know that if ones area of expertise had been limited to European shorthaul. Perhaps we could apply this same level of political license locally and refer to the body of water separating the UAE from Iran as the Persian Gulf

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Old 25th May 2018, 10:15
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Well, since we are back flying over the region of the tower of Babel, spelling and comprehension is slightly disturbed.
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Old 25th May 2018, 10:37
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I wonder if BBJ did his "home work" before he accepted the gig?
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Old 26th May 2018, 05:51
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[QUOTE]Rangoon was changed to Yangon in 1989[QUOTE] yes indeed, funny similarity to Long Range Ed when he suggested Nairobi was a suitable close alternate to Jo'burg...
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Old 26th May 2018, 07:12
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Wow, I so surprised that the AUS destinations have been pulled. It's almost like the regulatory authority downunder had some input. Well done CASA. Next for the FAA to step up and stop this lunacy.
All the time you complain to your company or the regulating authority you work under you will get no where, history tells you that.
If you can get the attention of the crews into whose airspace you fly, under crewed and over tired and get them, through their union, to make a flight safety case out of it, you might start getting somewhere. Time to call on your American colleagues to step up to the plate, perhaps?
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Old 26th May 2018, 08:02
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So Brains first email basically said:

"From the 1st July the following pairings will be operated with a flight crew complement of 3"

The next email says:

"Last week I shared a list of potential 3 man LRV routes."

Nice back flip Brain. Maybe he is seeing the danger of having his name involved in this shite.

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Old 26th May 2018, 08:18
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To airline management almost the world over, regulatory limits are targets.
To an office KPI driven 'efficiency management' professional, there is ZERO regard for anything other than moving roster practice ever closer to a limit.
They of course have weekends off and no sleep disturbance, even if they find themselves listless, there is another sleep opportunity just tomorrow!
Your crew hotels another cost to be minimised.

Of course in a modern Orwellian nightmare like the UAE where Regulator and Airline Management are 'incredibly similar' when those limits are met, change the limits! Gives a whole new meaning to regulatory capture.
Fortunately unlike many other 'guest workers' in the UAE pilots are less indentured.
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Old 26th May 2018, 18:30
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Fortunately unlike many other 'guest workers' in the UAE pilots are less indentured.
I'm not sure about that. The construction workers are indentured for two years. FO's are bonded for 5 years.
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