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Managing expectations

Old 3rd May 2018, 12:21
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Thumbs down Managing expectations

And there we have it..."pay and reward statement" coming next week..."limited funds available" ..."You may think tha's a not-so-subtleway of suggesting that we should manage our expectations-and to be fair it probably is"...

We see one color they see another color altough we're looking at the same thing...

We have all been warned to expect little next week.
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Old 3rd May 2018, 12:26
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I expect nothing and I am still let down.
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Old 3rd May 2018, 12:35
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I hope HH and the board are able to manage their own expectations of the airline when they finally wake up and realise how many pilots have left, are leaving and are continuing to leave.

I have tried to be loyal and professional but my patience is now at an end.
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Old 3rd May 2018, 12:37
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Best reserve some more parking slots ...
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Old 3rd May 2018, 17:48
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I see a very awful summer ahead for those remaining behind more work and stress...
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Best reserve some more parking slots ...
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Old 3rd May 2018, 22:05
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No surprise really. Why bother retaining anyone? Applications are flowing in and people are even asking to come back!!!
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Old 4th May 2018, 00:37
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Originally Posted by dustyflightdeck
No surprise really. Why bother retaining anyone? Applications are flowing in and people are even asking to come back!!!
I think we may have a new record. How long did it take the talking horse or TOGA to spout this type of rubbish? Mind you we have 170 cadets racing to the rescue so problem solved! Good thing the cockpits are big enough to house those big watches, hair gel and cheap perfume.

New fast acting, high proof Kool-Aid I guess.
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Old 4th May 2018, 03:02
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TCAS sprouted the “we have thousands of applicants waiting to take your job” mantra as well. Seemed to work really well back then, so I guess BBJ just thought he could roll it out again .Really unfair of you to notice Outlaw

Wonder if the pay review the will be the old “ productivity will be lifted to 92hrs because all that ULR and delivering aircraft to the DWC parking lot flying is really easy. And you should all just be happy to have a job in these difficult times. ”

Good news is it has been found that the reduction of cabin on flights has been so successful than a further GR2 will be removed commencing June. FG1s on Boeing ULR flights also to be adjusted downwards .Seems a clear sign of how things are going.
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Old 4th May 2018, 04:44
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Well , that didn’t take him long!! Do these guys all use the same text book or something?
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Old 4th May 2018, 05:19
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Facts be facts . We do have some guys who want to come back and I believe last month they interviewed and passed quite a lot of people .
Those are facts . Quality of them etc etc that’s a different thing .
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Old 4th May 2018, 05:54
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Originally Posted by donpizmeov
TCAS sprouted the “we have thousands of applicants waiting to take your job” mantra as well. Seemed to work really well back then, so I guess BBJ just thought he could roll it out again .Really unfair of you to notice Outlaw

Wonder if the pay review the will be the old “ productivity will be lifted to 92hrs because all that ULR and delivering aircraft to the DWC parking lot flying is really easy. And you should all just be happy to have a job in these difficult times. ”

Good news is it has been found that the reduction of cabin on flights has been so successful than a further GR2 will be removed commencing June. FG1s on Boeing ULR flights also to be adjusted downwards .Seems a clear sign of how things are going.
Agree with the DON but it’s difficult times for the airline not the pilots. I just don’t understand the pilot workforce in such airline, as jobs are in Abundance and there has never been so many options they should be leaving in droves and stop holding back there careers. The writing on the the wall could not be any bigger font!!
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Old 4th May 2018, 07:35
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Just Smoke & Mirrors.....
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Old 4th May 2018, 08:04
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Next week children, Brain will be telling us a story about his long haul experience, concentrating on his rest and recovery advice.
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Old 4th May 2018, 08:27
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Originally Posted by alwayzinit
Next week children, Brain will be telling us a story about his long haul experience, concentrating on his rest and recovery advice.
Loco guys with limited experience that’s all . top mangers are expensive and tend to want some autonomy in their decision making .
Is Hr Mueller still in the building ?
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Old 4th May 2018, 10:37
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Good question. Bueller? I mean Mueller? ...Mueller? What happened to that guy?
While I appreciate Brian's dialogue and comms, he's really just a conduit from up above. But Brian if your listening, take some notes...drop the productively threshold, give us proper credit for leave days, 3 years now without a pay increase, more than 2 days off after a ULR. I'll leave it there.
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Originally Posted by SOPS
Well , that didn’t take him long!! Do these guys all use the same text book or something?
True it didn't take him long to jump on the company band wagon

Originally Posted by donpizmeov

Seems a clear sign of how things are going.
​​​​​​​At such an alarming rate!!
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Old 4th May 2018, 14:05
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Resistance is futile.

At a recent CIF (commander in focus) day the facilitator was full of a life with Brian. The participants a tad less. They convened that it is no longer time for talk, but for delivery.
Now we have the perfect example of what the upper echelons made of this kind of feedback: More blah blah.

Solution? Simple: If next weeks talk is even more only blah blah ...... more ABC
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Old 4th May 2018, 16:48
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He's in a month or two and you expect change already? FFS, give the guy a chance. Work with him, not against him and lets see collectively if there are positives to come out of it. Write to him. He can only ever stand a chance of changing things if he's armed with the data and evidence. It's not him who's ultimately controlling the policies but it is him who can influence those that do.

We complain when we hear nothing, we complain when we do. If there are people here who truly believe nothing will ever change, the solution is obvious. Leave!

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Old 4th May 2018, 17:12
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Are you going to leave Harry?
I’m not having a go at you but you seemed to have possibly “crossed the Rubicon” in a previous post.
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Old 4th May 2018, 18:20
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Originally Posted by harry the cod
He's in a month or two and you expect change already? FFS, give the guy a chance. Work with him, not against him and lets see collectively if there are positives to come out of it. Write to him. He can only ever stand a chance of changing things if he's armed with the data and evidence. It's not him who's ultimately controlling the policies but it is him who can influence those that do.

We complain when we hear nothing, we complain when we do. If there are people here who truly believe nothing will ever change, the solution is obvious. Leave!

Harry
Sorry H now your just being silly ! and you’ve been in EK how long ?
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