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I don't really understand why there are continued references to the US American Legacy carriers-only US Citizens/Green Card holders are eligible to even apply let alone get accepted! That effectively excludes the majority of EK pilots. If you are eligible and haven't already gone either: it works for you here or you got knocked back.
It’s not clear what you mean by “knocked back” but if you mean interviewed and rejected, that might be so in some cases but there’s another equally, if not more likely, explanation: can’t get an interview with a US career-destination carrier in the first place.
Just for the record, the US has legion upon legion of highly qualified candidates who can’t get a chance to be rejected because they can’t get an interview in the first place. This group contains eligible people flying in the ME, I can assure you.
These people have great quals, clean records, have applied repeatedly, spent great time/effort/money and even flown half way around the world to attend phony-baloney “career fairs” in hopes of just getting themselves a chance to be “knocked back”…and suddenly, nothing happened.
It’s Jungle Rules. Makes me feel fortunate to be old and unwanted.
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harry the cod;
This is my first time ever posting on this forum as a long time lurker. I think I know who the guy was who left Delta to fly at EK was. He was a 737-800 captain who was pretty senior at the time, and when he left some of us had to scratch our heads. Yes, at the time economically it was a good decision for him, but in the long run it was terrible. I am now a 75/76 line check airman and have earned over $470k gross the last three years. My PBGC benefit is going to be $6400 per month. We all received over $350k on average for the loss of pension in the sale of 2 different notes. In addition I received 4500 shares of company stock after the merger with Northwest. So, the loss of the pension hurt pretty bad, but was lessened by the money we received post bankruptcy. My profit sharing checks the last 5 years are also over $300k.
This is my first time ever posting on this forum as a long time lurker. I think I know who the guy was who left Delta to fly at EK was. He was a 737-800 captain who was pretty senior at the time, and when he left some of us had to scratch our heads. Yes, at the time economically it was a good decision for him, but in the long run it was terrible. I am now a 75/76 line check airman and have earned over $470k gross the last three years. My PBGC benefit is going to be $6400 per month. We all received over $350k on average for the loss of pension in the sale of 2 different notes. In addition I received 4500 shares of company stock after the merger with Northwest. So, the loss of the pension hurt pretty bad, but was lessened by the money we received post bankruptcy. My profit sharing checks the last 5 years are also over $300k.
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If I get hired at Delta it won’t be good for me, it will be f#$&ing fantastic! If you stay at Emirates it will be bad for you in terms of health, stress and lifestyle.
Let’s put the gun debate in proper prospective. Since 1980 there have been about 450 people die on school campus’ from firearms and that includes suicides and accidental discharges. Although that number is too high that averages about one a month and we as Emirates pilots are far more likely to be harmed on SZR than being effected by a gun.
The contunied references to Legacy Airlines I believe is for us to strive to meet their conditions and hopefully improve our lot. It’s not happening but we can only wish and hope for a better life here or get the He11 out which a lot of pilots that aren’t stuck at Emirates are attempting to do.
Most of the Legacy Airlines have loads of applications from pilots and Emirates is parking airplanes. That in a nutshell tells everyone what kind of operations are being run by the various airlines. There is a pilot shortage but it is only at the airlines at the lower end of the pay spectrum. It’s good for some people though.
Let’s put the gun debate in proper prospective. Since 1980 there have been about 450 people die on school campus’ from firearms and that includes suicides and accidental discharges. Although that number is too high that averages about one a month and we as Emirates pilots are far more likely to be harmed on SZR than being effected by a gun.
The contunied references to Legacy Airlines I believe is for us to strive to meet their conditions and hopefully improve our lot. It’s not happening but we can only wish and hope for a better life here or get the He11 out which a lot of pilots that aren’t stuck at Emirates are attempting to do.
Most of the Legacy Airlines have loads of applications from pilots and Emirates is parking airplanes. That in a nutshell tells everyone what kind of operations are being run by the various airlines. There is a pilot shortage but it is only at the airlines at the lower end of the pay spectrum. It’s good for some people though.
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A6-EMQ went into storage at Alice Springs, old -300. Its a white tail. For all movements in and out of storage look here, plus other nuggets you don't see on official channels.
The EK Source ? Emirates News and Information
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The EK Source ? Emirates News and Information
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Thanks for getting back on track...
A6-EMQ went into storage at Alice Springs, old -300. Its a white tail. For all movements in and out of storage look here, plus other nuggets you don't see on official channels.
The EK Source ? Emirates News and Information
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The EK Source ? Emirates News and Information
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A good friend of mine retired from EK last year at age 65. He returned 'home' to the US and now works for Delta, his previous employer, as a ground instructor. He does this not because he wants to but because he needs to. Delta stole his pension 15 years ago and 'invested' his money in a re branding exercise after coming out of Chapter 11. He lost everything. So much for having a union. He came to Emirates 13 years ago and slowly rebuilt his finances. Some of his colleagues stayed at Delta and he admitted himself that if he'd stayed, he'd probably be better off schedule wise although financially, it would be about even. Even so, the fact that he lost his pension left a bitter taste and he always said how grateful he was to EK for affording him the chance to start again as a DEC.
I do wonder sometimes who the 'Kool Aid' drinkers really are? Short term memory or selective memory perhaps? Either way, the Stockholm syndrome seems just as prevelent in the good ol US of A as it is in the sandpit! Those airlines dropped you guys like hot potatoes yet it amazes me how loyal you remain. I guess rose tinted spectacles must be on sale in Walgreens these days, eh boys? Wonder how much the CEO's lost out during Chapter 11!
Anyway, wind up aside, not for one minute do I think EK's conditions, especially lifestyle, can match some of the more established carriers, both in the US and in Europe. However, what I do find amazing is how anytime an EK pilot provides his salary information, he's accused of bragging. Yet, Delta pilots seem immune from this criticism. All I do know is that any relative senior Training Captain within EK who's taking the live out allowance, will easily clear over $290,000 tax free each year. That's achievable after 18 years service.
I don't think anyone needs to justify anything with those figures RK Blue sky.
As for being stuck, yep, agreed, life is pretty crap to be honest. Weekend off so brunch tomorrow, then the boat Saturday with friends. Sunday school run......safe in the knowledge that no loser will be charging around campus with a semi automatic.
But it's good for you though.
Harry
I do wonder sometimes who the 'Kool Aid' drinkers really are? Short term memory or selective memory perhaps? Either way, the Stockholm syndrome seems just as prevelent in the good ol US of A as it is in the sandpit! Those airlines dropped you guys like hot potatoes yet it amazes me how loyal you remain. I guess rose tinted spectacles must be on sale in Walgreens these days, eh boys? Wonder how much the CEO's lost out during Chapter 11!
Anyway, wind up aside, not for one minute do I think EK's conditions, especially lifestyle, can match some of the more established carriers, both in the US and in Europe. However, what I do find amazing is how anytime an EK pilot provides his salary information, he's accused of bragging. Yet, Delta pilots seem immune from this criticism. All I do know is that any relative senior Training Captain within EK who's taking the live out allowance, will easily clear over $290,000 tax free each year. That's achievable after 18 years service.
I don't think anyone needs to justify anything with those figures RK Blue sky.
As for being stuck, yep, agreed, life is pretty crap to be honest. Weekend off so brunch tomorrow, then the boat Saturday with friends. Sunday school run......safe in the knowledge that no loser will be charging around campus with a semi automatic.
But it's good for you though.
Harry
What happened to your US of A friend and colleague could happen here as well if EK business turns sour all of a sudden.
Even if the Provident Fund is under our name, we have to claim it via EK offices after resignation.
One day (hopefully never) Emirates could easily amend the contract via email and award an end of service benefits according to UAE law instead ...
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If I get hired at Delta it won’t be good for me, it will be f#$&ing fantastic! If you stay at Emirates it will be bad for you in terms of health, stress and lifestyle.
Let’s put the gun debate in proper prospective. Since 1980 there have been about 450 people die on school campus’ from firearms and that includes suicides and accidental discharges. Although that number is too high that averages about one a month and we as Emirates pilots are far more likely to be harmed on SZR than being effected by a gun.
The contunied references to Legacy Airlines I believe is for us to strive to meet their conditions and hopefully improve our lot. It’s not happening but we can only wish and hope for a better life here or get the He11 out which a lot of pilots that aren’t stuck at Emirates are attempting to do.
Most of the Legacy Airlines have loads of applications from pilots and Emirates is parking airplanes. That in a nutshell tells everyone what kind of operations are being run by the various airlines. There is a pilot shortage but it is only at the airlines at the lower end of the pay spectrum. It’s good for some people though.
Let’s put the gun debate in proper prospective. Since 1980 there have been about 450 people die on school campus’ from firearms and that includes suicides and accidental discharges. Although that number is too high that averages about one a month and we as Emirates pilots are far more likely to be harmed on SZR than being effected by a gun.
The contunied references to Legacy Airlines I believe is for us to strive to meet their conditions and hopefully improve our lot. It’s not happening but we can only wish and hope for a better life here or get the He11 out which a lot of pilots that aren’t stuck at Emirates are attempting to do.
Most of the Legacy Airlines have loads of applications from pilots and Emirates is parking airplanes. That in a nutshell tells everyone what kind of operations are being run by the various airlines. There is a pilot shortage but it is only at the airlines at the lower end of the pay spectrum. It’s good for some people though.
The Thread Drift Police would have a fit if I gave you the explanation. And it would cause large clumps of your brain cells to implode in death spasms of boredom.
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I am not american but believe me if I had the opportunity to go and fly there , I will leave right away...
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EY acre to EK
Was told QR management say pilots resigning can go because they have lots of crew from EY waiting to join. Thought EY was seconding Crew to EK to help alleviate the shortage ? And wouldn’t that be a better job prospect for them than QR? Why is it so acute?