Going from EK widebody Capt to LCC in Europe. Opinions?
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Thanks for sticking your neck out PPPPP.
There is no perfect company out there, something about not being able to please all the people all of the time. I'm sure EK can be a challenging working environment at times, I'm not blinded to that. Whether it's to a point that I won't enjoy it is obviously very subjective.
Your post along with the rest does help me in making a final decision, I'll just have to take some time to weigh up the pros and cons.
There is no perfect company out there, something about not being able to please all the people all of the time. I'm sure EK can be a challenging working environment at times, I'm not blinded to that. Whether it's to a point that I won't enjoy it is obviously very subjective.
Your post along with the rest does help me in making a final decision, I'll just have to take some time to weigh up the pros and cons.
Ppppp, Xulu and Voeltje, why don't you get a room🙄
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Thanks for the suggestion box. I’ll have to check the Emirates platinum card to see if there are any discounts going.
My wife and I went to the Dubai art show at the Souk madinat last night, which was very good if anyone’s not been yet. After that we went to one of the restaurants and had some food and drinks. All with a 50% discount(details on the last weekly email).
Don’t know of any loco companies with a discount scheme like that.
My wife and I went to the Dubai art show at the Souk madinat last night, which was very good if anyone’s not been yet. After that we went to one of the restaurants and had some food and drinks. All with a 50% discount(details on the last weekly email).
Don’t know of any loco companies with a discount scheme like that.
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If you can get 50% off , it clearly means that the prices are way to high and that everybody not having access to the same discount as you are ripped off.
It show how this place is , most of the prices are higher than in any other place dispite the fact that there is not tax !!!
Great for you that you can benefit from discount but what about all the others that are not ?
Of course as long as it is good for you , everything is fine.
That's also what is Paramount in this place , no compassion for what happen to others,
Selfishness , greedyness , etc... what a nice environment to live in.
I just hope nothing bad will happen to you or your family in the future because what is great here is that nobody will care and be there to help you.
It show how this place is , most of the prices are higher than in any other place dispite the fact that there is not tax !!!
Great for you that you can benefit from discount but what about all the others that are not ?
Of course as long as it is good for you , everything is fine.
That's also what is Paramount in this place , no compassion for what happen to others,
Selfishness , greedyness , etc... what a nice environment to live in.
I just hope nothing bad will happen to you or your family in the future because what is great here is that nobody will care and be there to help you.
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Dubaigong, thanks for your reply. Dubai can be an expensive city. A quick google search put it at 20th on one list and 19th on another.
Dubai has some great dining options in all price brackets and as such there is plenty of competition for both residents and tourists to use them. Using offers to help attract custom is a very normal practice in many cities, and Dubai seems to be no exception.
It is great that I have the EPC as one option for discounts, and restaurants do use it with a wide range of discount from 10% upwards. Had we not used that one we could have used the entertainer discount scheme(buy one meal, get another free) that we get free with our HSBC account. I think Emirates NDB have a dining discount as well. Either way it allows us to go out and still manage our costs. Something that a lot of people in Dubai do. Groupon also works in Dubai I think, haven’t checked.
I’m not sure that makes me greedy or selfish, using discounts that are open to many people.
For what it’s worth, in terms of helping, I had a problem with the roster next(different thread) month. I emailed rostering and that they had it sorted within a week. They were very helpful.
Dubai has some great dining options in all price brackets and as such there is plenty of competition for both residents and tourists to use them. Using offers to help attract custom is a very normal practice in many cities, and Dubai seems to be no exception.
It is great that I have the EPC as one option for discounts, and restaurants do use it with a wide range of discount from 10% upwards. Had we not used that one we could have used the entertainer discount scheme(buy one meal, get another free) that we get free with our HSBC account. I think Emirates NDB have a dining discount as well. Either way it allows us to go out and still manage our costs. Something that a lot of people in Dubai do. Groupon also works in Dubai I think, haven’t checked.
I’m not sure that makes me greedy or selfish, using discounts that are open to many people.
For what it’s worth, in terms of helping, I had a problem with the roster next(different thread) month. I emailed rostering and that they had it sorted within a week. They were very helpful.
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April is 14 days not working. 3 daytime turnarounds, 4 layovers. About 84hrs, 30 of which are taken up with the ULR. Easy.
I don't think leave is the greatest problem IF you are single and are willing to take it at any time. However for the married guys with families, it becomes much more of a challenge, peak leave isn't easy to get.
As for being expensive......well yes it is crazily so. You do get paid more than most would back in the west, however, if you are not careful it slips through your fingers. Its great to get discounts but to run around just looking for discounts so as to live within your means, doesn't exactly make you feel like a valued professional. Back home I would have also used discounts but didn't feel as strapped when I didn't.
My disposable income has most definitely been eroded over the last 2+ years. 5% VAT 3% duty, inflation 7%+ gives a real term reduction of approximately 15% in the last year alone. This coupled with lack of semi contractual 3% and no increases for several years whilst flying maximum hours does grate somewhat.
I think things generally have reached there apogee here, which is unfortunate. That said there are still reasons for young thrusters to join, that said it is unfortunate that the terms have reduced to the stage where they are the only ones we seem to attract whilst we let the experience slip out of the door.
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Been here a while, and still enjoying it.
While I’ll be shouted down for this, the view you get from PPRuNe is a distilled and somewhat extreme view. The majority of people I fly with are happy.
If you’re thinking of joining EK then come to Dubai on holiday. If you like Dubai, then you’ll like working here.
For what it’s worth for this thread.
Last job would be 9 days off and 21 working.
April is 14 days not working. 3 daytime turnarounds, 4 layovers. About 84hrs, 30 of which are taken up with the ULR. Easy.
While I’ll be shouted down for this, the view you get from PPRuNe is a distilled and somewhat extreme view. The majority of people I fly with are happy.
If you’re thinking of joining EK then come to Dubai on holiday. If you like Dubai, then you’ll like working here.
For what it’s worth for this thread.
Last job would be 9 days off and 21 working.
April is 14 days not working. 3 daytime turnarounds, 4 layovers. About 84hrs, 30 of which are taken up with the ULR. Easy.
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Hi Felixthecat, I’ve been there as well. When blocks of flights are so close together and you don’t know if you’re coming or going. Not nice.
My last gig would be 80-90hrs of multi sector days for a loco. Doing 4 take offs and landings in one day, with all the added problems of pax, baggage etc..... all for about 5hrs flying on a bad day. To do one sector to Europe which takes 6hrs, spend a day there and 6 hrs home..... that’s where I find this type of flying much easier.
We’ve definitely felt the cost of living increase here, but we’re still managing to get a good amount into savings each month. As my old local supermarket says, ‘every little helps”
Murrenfan. No need to fake anything. All I can say is I wish I was on the 380.... my mates roster seems even nicer.
My last gig would be 80-90hrs of multi sector days for a loco. Doing 4 take offs and landings in one day, with all the added problems of pax, baggage etc..... all for about 5hrs flying on a bad day. To do one sector to Europe which takes 6hrs, spend a day there and 6 hrs home..... that’s where I find this type of flying much easier.
We’ve definitely felt the cost of living increase here, but we’re still managing to get a good amount into savings each month. As my old local supermarket says, ‘every little helps”
Murrenfan. No need to fake anything. All I can say is I wish I was on the 380.... my mates roster seems even nicer.
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I wish there were more people like you.
I suggest that you start to organize some information days for many of my fellow collegues from EK and FZ to teach them how you manage to save so much money because what I hear from most of them is that they are really havind difficulties to cope with the rising costs ( in particular those with children at school )
The funny thing though , is that for somebody being here for so long , it's only your 8 posts on this website ( Under that name at least )...
Hope you will be able to help them... They definitely need it
I wish there were more people like you.
I suggest that you start to organize some information days for many of my fellow collegues from EK and FZ to teach them how you manage to save so much money because what I hear from most of them is that they are really havind difficulties to cope with the rising costs ( in particular those with children at school )
The funny thing though , is that for somebody being here for so long , it's only your 8 posts on this website ( Under that name at least )...
Hope you will be able to help them... They definitely need it
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Didn't know that EK office workers could also apply for an EPC card. How much do you pay? What is Desi? Where are crew bags loaded? What temperature options are there to keep your SA meat nice and cool in the 777?
PPPPPP, stop wasting your time and ours. Tell your bosses the easiest option is to treat us all as humans, stop the eroding conditions and give back what they have taken over the years.
........As we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don't know we don't know....
Anyone working for EK past the 2 year honeymoon period just KNOWS...they share this with colleagues..hence it is so hard to find anyone capable to agree to a bond, and to 'safely' fly the shinny jets...
PPPPPP is this your official position?
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Econ...you just may have nailed it.
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Econ101...... yep, totally nailed that one. When it comes to reasoned debate then using the Ad Hominem argument is always a winner. Points for at least doing some research to find an old job advert(how many aircraft do we have?), and asking for a shibboleth in the hopes of catching me out.
Well played indeed sir with your cast iron argument that since I like my job I must not be an Emirates pilot.
Dubaigong. Since Ad Hominem arguments appear to be the only answer you all have to someone who mearly states that he likes the job I’ll reply with like for like.
You’ve posted 113 times on the Flydubai jobs thread and only 6 times on the Emirates jobs thread so who exactly do you work for, as if its Flydubai then one should maybe ask about the interest you have in a EK vs EURO LOCO thread?(I’m guessing you have friends here and are therefore showing an interest which I’m fine with)
Of course going back to the original point, I simply decided to add my thoughts to the thread having worked both LOCO and EK. Apparently my opinions arn’t valid?
“and leave the right to EVERYBODY to voice his/her opinion on this PUBLIC forum”
Dubaigong, solo landing thread
10-2-2018
Econ101, if you’re going to quote someone, at least give them the attribute. I’m sure Donald Rumsfeld would appreciate the nod if you’re going to quote his known unknowns line.
Well played indeed sir with your cast iron argument that since I like my job I must not be an Emirates pilot.
Dubaigong. Since Ad Hominem arguments appear to be the only answer you all have to someone who mearly states that he likes the job I’ll reply with like for like.
You’ve posted 113 times on the Flydubai jobs thread and only 6 times on the Emirates jobs thread so who exactly do you work for, as if its Flydubai then one should maybe ask about the interest you have in a EK vs EURO LOCO thread?(I’m guessing you have friends here and are therefore showing an interest which I’m fine with)
Of course going back to the original point, I simply decided to add my thoughts to the thread having worked both LOCO and EK. Apparently my opinions arn’t valid?
“and leave the right to EVERYBODY to voice his/her opinion on this PUBLIC forum”
Dubaigong, solo landing thread
10-2-2018
Econ101, if you’re going to quote someone, at least give them the attribute. I’m sure Donald Rumsfeld would appreciate the nod if you’re going to quote his known unknowns line.
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I know loads of guys that like being here, as do I. Is it perfect? Not by a long chalk. Major issues here on rostering and leave need huge radical changes. I've not even hit two years and have over 40 days sitting, zero leave in my first year. (yes I contacted everyone who breathes in EK without any action)
The small things guys whine about piss me off when the big ones are glaringly obvious to tackle first. Treatment of leave is nothing short of criminal. I don't work for the GCAA so I don't give a toss that they think 30 days is ok.
EK is certainly not the worst place to be and I generally have a great day out with great crew. Would I recommend it?.....only if you're stuck.
The changes happening here are a UAE problem not just EK, hence the price hikes and other social issues. The greed is becoming very noticeable.
I could live with some of the small issues but the rostering problems and leave need immediate attention. Numerous reasons why pilots aren't arriving and honestly i don't blame them. We can be positive, enjoy the job, as I do myself, but not blind.
I'm certainly not leaving any day soon but without changes that'll come sooner than I planned.
The small things guys whine about piss me off when the big ones are glaringly obvious to tackle first. Treatment of leave is nothing short of criminal. I don't work for the GCAA so I don't give a toss that they think 30 days is ok.
EK is certainly not the worst place to be and I generally have a great day out with great crew. Would I recommend it?.....only if you're stuck.
The changes happening here are a UAE problem not just EK, hence the price hikes and other social issues. The greed is becoming very noticeable.
I could live with some of the small issues but the rostering problems and leave need immediate attention. Numerous reasons why pilots aren't arriving and honestly i don't blame them. We can be positive, enjoy the job, as I do myself, but not blind.
I'm certainly not leaving any day soon but without changes that'll come sooner than I planned.
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"how many aircraft do we have?"...seriously... a totally commercial/management question...you are out of your league here and have only proved my point.
If life is so great, what on earth are you doing on pprune? Enjoy the Dubai lifestyle, keep taking out your Platinum card and asking for discounts - I am sure the ladies also love your discounts...they will definitely want to go out again and to plan a future with you.
We all like our job, the problem is the management, the way we are treated, the toxic culture, and punitive un-collaborative environment, hence many vent here.
When it gets too much, we leave. No collective bargaining or listening to your employees at EK - the only option is to jump ship.
This is the problem, and back to the thread - WHY are so many leaving? This time of year it is only about to get worse. LHS leaving, or considering leaving for orange - crisis management kicks in and in comes the likes of PPPPPP.
Pprune is actually EKs HR departments friend : this is the place to vent our frustrations. We write, tell it as it is, tell the truth/reality, feel slightly better for letting it out, and fly another day. Much cheaper than psychologists. Let us be. The opportunity to vent here keeps the operation in motion. PR posts are not welcome or advised.
You are totally misguided, as was Donald (can't believe you took it upon yourself to mention his name). He is an idiot, an idiot who feels those below him are even larger unintelligent idiots. We are sick of the utter management BS, disrespect, ignorance and disregard for those who actually do any work at EK...hence the quote...
Those considering leaving to join a low cost are in my opinion definitely wiser than anyone reading and considering joining EK at the moment. They realise what is important in life and what is not.
The fact so many asking about taking a pay cut and actually leaving speaks for itself.
PPPPPP, despite your great posts re platinum card discounts and the great life here in the desert, you will unfortunately not get a bonus this year, your KPIs will not be met, and more will jump ship than join in the coming months - reality/truth is hard to contain.
If life is so great, what on earth are you doing on pprune? Enjoy the Dubai lifestyle, keep taking out your Platinum card and asking for discounts - I am sure the ladies also love your discounts...they will definitely want to go out again and to plan a future with you.
We all like our job, the problem is the management, the way we are treated, the toxic culture, and punitive un-collaborative environment, hence many vent here.
When it gets too much, we leave. No collective bargaining or listening to your employees at EK - the only option is to jump ship.
This is the problem, and back to the thread - WHY are so many leaving? This time of year it is only about to get worse. LHS leaving, or considering leaving for orange - crisis management kicks in and in comes the likes of PPPPPP.
Pprune is actually EKs HR departments friend : this is the place to vent our frustrations. We write, tell it as it is, tell the truth/reality, feel slightly better for letting it out, and fly another day. Much cheaper than psychologists. Let us be. The opportunity to vent here keeps the operation in motion. PR posts are not welcome or advised.
You are totally misguided, as was Donald (can't believe you took it upon yourself to mention his name). He is an idiot, an idiot who feels those below him are even larger unintelligent idiots. We are sick of the utter management BS, disrespect, ignorance and disregard for those who actually do any work at EK...hence the quote...
Those considering leaving to join a low cost are in my opinion definitely wiser than anyone reading and considering joining EK at the moment. They realise what is important in life and what is not.
The fact so many asking about taking a pay cut and actually leaving speaks for itself.
PPPPPP, despite your great posts re platinum card discounts and the great life here in the desert, you will unfortunately not get a bonus this year, your KPIs will not be met, and more will jump ship than join in the coming months - reality/truth is hard to contain.
A week ago PPPPP had no posts, now has 10. Can't even answer a simple question like 'how long have you been at EK?'
I can. 7 years, 6 months. That's how long I was at EK. And in that time one thing never changed - the need for EK to have office dwellers posting rubbish on this forum to try and trick the applicants into joining.
Your posts are breathtakingly transparent PPPPP. Which is what makes them so amusing. Have some credibility like 'tripleslavin' who posts genuine feedback : "hey I make the most of it, and it is working for me, but it has MANY MANY problems." But you can't do that because unlike triplesalvin, you have no idea what the life of a pilot at EK is actually like.
I can. 7 years, 6 months. That's how long I was at EK. And in that time one thing never changed - the need for EK to have office dwellers posting rubbish on this forum to try and trick the applicants into joining.
Your posts are breathtakingly transparent PPPPP. Which is what makes them so amusing. Have some credibility like 'tripleslavin' who posts genuine feedback : "hey I make the most of it, and it is working for me, but it has MANY MANY problems." But you can't do that because unlike triplesalvin, you have no idea what the life of a pilot at EK is actually like.
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Econ101 and mmmbop , I am with you...
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On your last post you are asking in which company I am , instead of answering my question
I don't really see what difference it will make because if you are here as long as I have been ( since 2010 ) , you should know that many people from both companies are from the same families.
There are pilots , cabin crew and even office workers in Emirates who have a wife , a brother , a sister , a husband , a son , a daughter etc... working at Flydubai and vice versa
So we know very well how it is in BOTH companies.
But for myself ( if your are still interested ) I have started in FZ and moved to EK but I have been a lot longer in FZ then EK that's why I Have a lot more posts in the FZ thread.
On top of that , I try to avoid to post too much nowadays , except when I see an obvious try to modify the reality to fool the potential joiners at EK or FZ.
Also I always find very suspicious when somebody timely pop up with 0 previous post to explain how things are great here...
@pppppp
On your last post you are asking in which company I am , instead of answering my question
I don't really see what difference it will make because if you are here as long as I have been ( since 2010 ) , you should know that many people from both companies are from the same families.
There are pilots , cabin crew and even office workers in Emirates who have a wife , a brother , a sister , a husband , a son , a daughter etc... working at Flydubai and vice versa
So we know very well how it is in BOTH companies.
But for myself ( if your are still interested ) I have started in FZ and moved to EK but I have been a lot longer in FZ then EK that's why I Have a lot more posts in the FZ thread.
On top of that , I try to avoid to post too much nowadays , except when I see an obvious try to modify the reality to fool the potential joiners at EK or FZ.
Also I always find very suspicious when somebody timely pop up with 0 previous post to explain how things are great here...
I too have also worked for FZ and EK. The problems are interchangeable and essentially equate to life in Dubai in general. However, the management style is familiar to both in that the punitive culture is always in the background. Not an honest or just safety culture in either, quell surprise.
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Just a thought....a new "Orange" guy arrives in EK...and all of a sudden we have PPPPP telling us about how hard it is in places like Easyjet and quoting adverts from Tesco. Is this a stretch too far...or perhaps something else?....just wondering.
Your far too suspicious....there you go again putting 2 +2 together again to make 4 
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Being picked up and dropped off door to door in a new BMW is an incredible benefit that no other airline offers afaik.
For you to describe this as "having to babysit an under qualified stink ball who's trying to kill you" is disgusting on so many levels, let alone completely inaccurate. Almost exclusively friendly, professional and clean....
Laundry is also another incredible benefit that makes working life easier. You seem to think that washing and ironing your entire uniform at home is quicker than spending 2 minutes in a line for Laundry. How can you ever be happy in the face of such logic?
Without fail, the guys with this attitude are horrific pilots, and ironically have to be babysat in the flight deck or the sim by the unfortunate soul that has to listen to their bs ranting. The same ones who shout at the crew over their cappuccino not being made to their taste, and then complain that no one came to visit them in the flight deck.
You are making everyone's life around you miserable. Please leave.
Edit: I would love to see these types work a summer at EZY. Getting up at 3am is hard, but 5 days in a row is soul destroying (and for your squidgy wife) - only to then have to iron your shirt, deice the car, drive around their car park, catch a bus, buy your boots sandwich, print your flight plans, eat their horrendous crew meals, drink their instant coffee, and yes get on your hands and knees to clean up the cabin in between each of your four daily sectors. It will be a humbling experience. Whilst your yearly hours might be ~750-800, your duty hours are >1200.
At EK you are put on a pedestal at work. This leads to current princess attitudes. I assure you, the EZY cabin crew will eat you alive.
Other reality checks: NHS vs EK clinic, sitting in economy between Sharon and Tracy for your November leave to Malaga, standing at the front of the cabin to make a PA, numerous >hour long slots, warming up a freezing aircraft, 25 min turns - rushing and stressing to keep to schedule throughout the day, only to wait 4 hours for an engineer to drive to the outstation to sign a tech log entry, and then 20 mins for stairs to get attached after landing etc etc.
Whilst EK has its problems, and we're all working too hard at the moment, I'm not so delusional to give it up for a Euro LCC. I can only imagine that you have never experienced it before, and have developed a romantic notion of 'manual flying, living in Europe, and sleeping in your own bed every night'.
Being picked up and dropped off door to door in a new BMW is an incredible benefit that no other airline offers afaik.
For you to describe this as "having to babysit an under qualified stink ball who's trying to kill you" is disgusting on so many levels, let alone completely inaccurate. Almost exclusively friendly, professional and clean....
Laundry is also another incredible benefit that makes working life easier. You seem to think that washing and ironing your entire uniform at home is quicker than spending 2 minutes in a line for Laundry. How can you ever be happy in the face of such logic?
Without fail, the guys with this attitude are horrific pilots, and ironically have to be babysat in the flight deck or the sim by the unfortunate soul that has to listen to their bs ranting. The same ones who shout at the crew over their cappuccino not being made to their taste, and then complain that no one came to visit them in the flight deck.
You are making everyone's life around you miserable. Please leave.
Edit: I would love to see these types work a summer at EZY. Getting up at 3am is hard, but 5 days in a row is soul destroying (and for your squidgy wife) - only to then have to iron your shirt, deice the car, drive around their car park, catch a bus, buy your boots sandwich, print your flight plans, eat their horrendous crew meals, drink their instant coffee, and yes get on your hands and knees to clean up the cabin in between each of your four daily sectors. It will be a humbling experience. Whilst your yearly hours might be ~750-800, your duty hours are >1200.
At EK you are put on a pedestal at work. This leads to current princess attitudes. I assure you, the EZY cabin crew will eat you alive.
Other reality checks: NHS vs EK clinic, sitting in economy between Sharon and Tracy for your November leave to Malaga, standing at the front of the cabin to make a PA, numerous >hour long slots, warming up a freezing aircraft, 25 min turns - rushing and stressing to keep to schedule throughout the day, only to wait 4 hours for an engineer to drive to the outstation to sign a tech log entry, and then 20 mins for stairs to get attached after landing etc etc.
Whilst EK has its problems, and we're all working too hard at the moment, I'm not so delusional to give it up for a Euro LCC. I can only imagine that you have never experienced it before, and have developed a romantic notion of 'manual flying, living in Europe, and sleeping in your own bed every night'.
Hat off buddy