Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > PPRuNe Worldwide > Middle East
Reload this Page >

EK 25/3 Pilot forum Agenda .pdf

Wikiposts
Search
Middle East Many expats still flying in Knoteetingham. Regional issues can be discussed here.

EK 25/3 Pilot forum Agenda .pdf

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 26th Mar 2018, 09:44
  #81 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: dubai
Posts: 31
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by falconeasydriver
...the true crewing crisis is beginning to filter upstairs beyond a few protected individuals who have up until very recently dismissed all suggestions of shortages as temporary.
It has even got to the point I’m told of finger pointing and in one case a screaming match that caused alarm on the floor it took place on.
... personally I can’t see any admission of an error anytime soon.
I had it confirmed, by an insider, that things are rocking up there, 6th and 7th floor.
What they are ready to do about it: Prop up recruitment. Lower requirements are already in place.
Problems forecasted with that mindset:
* It is obvious to ANYONE that the extra cash used in recruitment and training is a waste compared to retention (not to mention inexperience risks and costs)
* More guys failing their initial course. Who can blame a Dash8 guy thrown mercylessly into the 777 grinder machine.
* Big gap in the upgrade timeframes, when the low hour guys already recruited do not meet the upgrade criteria. No one to upgrade within 4 years. And more fails.

Forum already took place. I was told Mr H laughed visibly when reminded that if steps had been followed we would have a 18% higher salary.
They still do not acknowledge there is a problem. And they won't.
There are jobs out there. Guys going to China (China!!!), Korea, LCC, Turkish, or even jobless taking a break and getting a job later. And there is no problem.
Couple of carriers went bust lately. No one joined here. And there is no problem.

Makes one wonder. Who will be blamed when we cancel more flights due to crewing issues. How long until it reaches TC or ShA.
Even then, what are they going to do? A 1% salary increase for all Flight Deck is roughly 16 million AED. I don't see anyone taking the chance of being fired for mentioning the big boss a 10% increase.
So keep rowing. There is no problem.
desert witch is offline  
Old 26th Mar 2018, 20:49
  #82 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: UAE
Posts: 1,026
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
If they think a 1% pay rise is expensive wait until they see what 0% costs.
BigGeordie is offline  
Old 27th Mar 2018, 09:59
  #83 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 1999
Location: On the Beach
Posts: 297
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Increased pay verses operating losses.

Interesting isn't it, I thought to myself as we taxied out past 12 parked pax 777s at DWC only 4 days ago.... they've been there for a while (months), presumably still accumulating monthly lease and maintenance costs (even if the parking is free...!), whilst being totally unproductive.

Anybody taking the hit upstairs for what's going on there.....? Still, keep salaries low and spend nothing on retention of staff, verses spend big on recruitment, and all is well.

Cannot believe parking so many expensive assets was actually in the game plan for this financial year. Just seems to be no accountability for some of the messed up decision taken here. I mean, seriously..........?!
Plank Cap is offline  
Old 27th Mar 2018, 10:47
  #84 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Stratosphere
Posts: 226
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Parked aircraft...as related to me recently, CPB announced at a recent wash-up, that the only options they had to resolve the manning (pilot) issue is to park aircraft and get the pilots to stop spreading malicious things on social media.

Really? That's the limit of their imagination?

I don't think the concept that whatever anyone posts is true as the posters see it is understood by the hierarchy..I very much doubt negative things posted around the web are deliberate lies..they are truths as perceived by the posters affected by them.

If any 'commanders' made operational decisions that cost as much as many dubious actions we have witnessed from senior management in the last 10 years, they (the commander) would be packing their bags, pronto. Accountability? NIL!
trimotor is offline  
Old 27th Mar 2018, 11:02
  #85 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: korea
Posts: 183
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Re the parked aircraft....My guess is the deal they have means that for now they don't foot the bill...otherwise theres no way they would be taking that sort of loss. its 100s of millions of dollars sitting around idle. But for sure someone is paying for it and its just a matter of time before they jack up.
allaru is offline  
Old 27th Mar 2018, 16:45
  #86 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: usa
Posts: 66
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
My airline just announced that there is no pilot shortage. They have received thousands upon thousands of qualified pilot applications and feel they have the pick of the litter as the saying goes. Yet they just gave us a 16% pay raise to match Delta Airlines.
If you compare the statements and actions of the two airlines one would quickly conclude that someone is doing things right and some airline is doing things the wrong way. Do we really need to identify which airline is which?
It is not that hard yet Emirates continues to compound their problems with bone headed decisions and face saving ideas that bring the airline down and prevent good pilots from applying to EK.
gl69 is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.