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Communication on 121.5

Old 3rd Mar 2018, 06:25
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Communication on 121.5

Flying around the middle east, I've noticed a few airlines (mostly pilots from India - I do not want to point out airlines but people who fly in this region would know exactly who I am referring to) use the 121.5 to transmit anything from flight plans to communicating with company aircraft .

No concept of having a company frequency for intercompany communication? Just curious.
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Originally Posted by TBL Warrior
Yup and they seem to think they own 123.45 too, and as you say from the dogs dinner, rosters, anything they can pollute the airways with!
Agreed
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Annoying and unprofessional
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but but, is that not what 21.5 is meant for???? Jokes aside, there are those who keep it on their 3rd, because it makes sense in the rest of the world. sad as it is, stay off it around the peninsula (and in certain other places just down the road from there...)
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Don’t target a particular nationality guys, haven’t you heard of music in china or Russian Italian or Greek conversation over Europe ? It’s been abused all over.
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Nothing compares to this region
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No Nationality, but one of the ME3 seems to use it as a company frequency.

almost impossible to have the freq up within 500 miles of DXB.
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Originally Posted by Ilyushin76
Flying around the middle east, I've noticed a few airlines (mostly pilots from India - I do not want to point out airlines but people who fly in this region would know exactly who I am referring to) use the 121.5 to transmit anything from flight plans to communicating with company aircraft .

No concept of having a company frequency for intercompany communication? Just curious.
Although I agree 121.5 should not be used for personal communication, people do have company freq. in India .. not only that.. they also use company 1 up.

121.5 is used to bring people to company one up and for people who are not in same airline and may not know your freq.

But I have seen this happening all over the world .. europe, us Asia.. you name it..

I find it quite amazing how people are so quick to generalize..

Not that I wanna defend Indians for using gaurd freq. but I believe every nationality comes with their own idiosyncrasy.. if you start getting pissed off with each one.. you would be a very pissed off person in life ..

I think you need to take it a bit lightly ..
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ICAO Level 4. Maybe 3??

Kinda ironic, innit???
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TBL is correct.

The discipline on "THE INTERNATIONAL EMERGENCY FREQUENCY" also known as "GUARD" has escaped common sense, airmanship and maturity in this region but also in Europe where its just about as bad. Why any (supposed) "professional" would think making cat noises, burps, farts, Big Button Box sound effects is somehow smart or cool begs belief.

Every pilot worthy of the title "professional"will monitor this frequency...please do us all a favour and show the world how smart you are by shutting up!
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Scream ‘You’re on guard’ in some plummy voice. Always works. Always.
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Originally Posted by The Outlaw
but also in Europe where its just about as bad
Utter rubbish! I very rarely hear 121.5 being used over Europe for general chitchat! Over the bl00dy Arabian Sea is another matter entirely... as TBL points out!
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Originally Posted by White Knight
Utter rubbish! I very rarely hear 121.5 being used over Europe for general chitchat! Over the bl00dy Arabian Sea is another matter entirely... as TBL points out!
Unsless flying over U.K where you constantly hear pointless radio checks...

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Old 6th Mar 2018, 03:20
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Unsless flying over U.K where you constantly hear pointless radio checks...
“Practise Pan Practise Pan”

Whenever I hear the usual suspects chatting...I normally transmit STFU in morse on the frequency.
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Why a professional pilot would react to a perfectly normal and acceptable transmission with a pointless and unnecessary response is beyond me. A response that the intended recipient is probably far too busy to comprehend, or even hear due to the fact he, or she, is on their 4th flight in a single engine trainer. You obviously find it funny or you're trying to prove a point. A point of not blocking a frequency by, er.....blocking a frequency?

Have you always been such a supercilious and pompous individual or has it taken years of professional practice to reach such an elevated position?
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Originally Posted by Monarch Man
“Practise Pan Practise Pan”

Whenever I hear the usual suspects chatting...I normally transmit STFU in morse on the frequency.
The only problem with your actions MM is that D & D actually encourages the practice ( pun possibly intended):

“The D&D actively promote pilots to use the facility to conduct Practice Pan and Training Fix scenarios under normal flight conditions, so that they are familiar with the service that can be provided, should a real emergency occur. The D&D are there to help aircrew and conducting a Practice Pan and Training Fix also provides D&D controllers the opportunity to hone their skills too”.

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Or, Monarch Man, did I misinterpret your comments and you actually were being ironic with the practice pan in quotation marks ??
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David, correct, I was being ironic and mildly sarcastic.

Paragraph two referred to Gupta and Prakash discussing IPL scores on 121.5 over the Arabian Sea.
Harry get off your high horse and lighten up a bit.
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Old 6th Mar 2018, 07:31
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Always amusing when someone posts, realise they're not as funny as they thought, then try to backtrack.

As for the high horse, your reference to "Gupta and Prakash" tells me all I need to know about you. Perhaps it's you MM who needs to dismount, before you fall off!

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And Harry I find it even more entertaining when someone such as yourself makes an assumption, only to find that their mental model is somewhat different to the reality, you of all people should be aware of that, I’m not backtracking..merely pointing out how idiotic and foolish your assumption is.
As for Gupta and Prakash, they both work for Spicejet, how do I know? Well, I had to endure their discussion, I’d also add that my contempt for their behaviour is related entirely to their disregard for the real reason for having 121.5. I suspect rather strongly that my contempt is shared by far more than not.
As ever Harold, all those trees are blocking your view of the wood.
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