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Old 23rd Apr 2018, 05:58
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Tim, is merely reflecting what he thinks needs to be said publicly, it’s called managing the message.
The shortage continues as Jet 2 and O’leary take people back and encourage more to return to first world rules and regulations.
Don’t expect any change, they, the ninth floor, would rather continue to park airframes than admit their colossal ineptitude.
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Old 23rd Apr 2018, 06:32
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I think expectations need to be managed here, otherwise there will be a lot of unhappy and angry people. Personally I think we would be lucky to just get the step - I would be amazed if we got anything on top of that and certainly no bonus.
Hope I am wrong but as we all know greed is king around here, and their hatred of pilots is borderline obsessive.
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Old 24th Apr 2018, 05:31
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KTD,

I am a little more optimistic ! My guess is that everyone will see 4 to 6 weeks and a step increase, perhaps even an additional ALT. It won't be from their generous nature but rather out of full scale necessity or else STC's "wee tad short of pilots" will turn into "we have a wee tad of pilots". However, they will put an equal amount of attention to keeping that money on their shores which they seem to have achieved starting May 1 amongst many other rate and fee increases.

Dnata, Dubai Airports and all the shops that fall under the brand are the real money makers so it only makes sense that that try to capitalize on areas where there is potential for profit. From a financial perspective it's my guess that EK has had a good year. QR and the un-named one have no doubt lost passengers to EK, cargo appears to be up and loads still seem high (assuming the yields are there as well).
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Old 24th Apr 2018, 19:51
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KTD,

I am a little more optimistic ! My guess is that everyone will see 4 to 6 weeks and a step increase, perhaps even an additional ALT. It won't be from their generous nature but rather out of full scale necessity or else STC's "wee tad short of pilots" will turn into "we have a wee tad of pilots". However, they will put an equal amount of attention to keeping that money on their shores which they seem to have achieved starting May 1 amongst many other rate and fee increases.

Dnata, Dubai Airports and all the shops that fall under the brand are the real money makers so it only makes sense that that try to capitalize on areas where there is potential for profit. From a financial perspective it's my guess that EK has had a good year. QR and the un-named one have no doubt lost passengers to EK, cargo appears to be up and loads still seem high (assuming the yields are there as well).
...LOL....
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Old 24th Apr 2018, 21:03
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We got the SRC. Nothing more to be expected...
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Old 25th Apr 2018, 02:23
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From someone who knows someone who knows someone...6% for pilots only and no profit share/bonus..I hope I'm wrong..

TM
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Old 25th Apr 2018, 05:13
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From someone who knows someone who knows someone...6% for pilots only and no profit share/bonus..I hope I'm wrong..

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I hope so. Cause people will lose it. Two years in a row no profit share. Other airlines are paying out huge bonuses. People are working themselves to the bone in this place. Clearly for nothing.
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Old 25th Apr 2018, 21:28
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Think the lack of target will be down to concerns over June/July loads, keeping some $$ back.

Think we will certainly get bonus, no managing of expectations this year. Heard from a few decent sources we will get one but as to amount, no one knows and rumours are just that.
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Old 26th Apr 2018, 14:51
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No invitation to annual result presentation = no profit share...

Maybe next year
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Old 26th Apr 2018, 15:10
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Originally Posted by Stjuk
No invitation to annual result presentation = no profit share...

Maybe next year

chill out! It doesnt have to be on a Thursday. Look back over the last few years emails. 2016 it was sent on a Tuesday. Expect it some time early next week for around 10th May. People are so quick to jump to conclusions.
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Old 26th Apr 2018, 16:14
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But Harrry said it would be a big one ?
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Old 26th Apr 2018, 17:41
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Isn't it strange that a company like Emirates doesn't have a profit target? There should always be a target. Otherwise how are you gotta measure the performance? There has to be something to compare it to. My guess is that the management will just reveal the numbers that are convenient to justify whatever they want to do to profit share..
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Old 26th Apr 2018, 22:15
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Bugger off SOPS, I never said that! I said we'd get one, there's a difference. 2-3 weeks is my bet.

I only tell my wife it will be a big one but she always ends up disappointed.

Keep walking them dogs fella.....I might be joining you soon if this Company doesn't start getting its act together......

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Old 27th Apr 2018, 02:02
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Bugger off SOPS, I never said that! I said we'd get one, there's a difference. 2-3 weeks is my bet.

I only tell my wife it will be a big one but she always ends up disappointed.

Keep walking them dogs fella.....I might be joining you soon if this Company doesn't start getting its act together......

Harry
No sense in waiting Harry, might as well get the dogs now!
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Old 27th Apr 2018, 18:41
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Harry is thinking of leaving the sinking ship? You know it’s bad here if he is thinking of leaving.
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Old 28th Apr 2018, 00:58
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Lets just hope that what our friends at FlyDubai recently received, (a few extra AED per hour flight pay) is not indicative of what's around the corner for us at EK.

Personally speaking, I am not holding my breath!!!
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Old 28th Apr 2018, 02:32
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Originally Posted by cerbus
Harry is thinking of leaving the sinking ship? You know it’s bad here if he is thinking of leaving.
That was exactly what I thought when I read it 😄😄, and I was down the park with the dogs at the time!
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Old 28th Apr 2018, 10:02
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That was exactly what I thought when I read it 😄😄, and I was down the park with the dogs at the time!
I’m still amazed at how many pilots think everything is wonderful here. I even press them and ask if they have any complaints about the company or it’s treatment of us and they say “no”. I really can’t believe what comes out of some pilots mouths and not everyone I ask is South African.
Most of the pilots I ask have been here for a number of years so they have seen the deterioration and yet they refuse to say anything truthful if it comes out negative. A much more honest answer would be “yeah it sucks here but I can’t go home.” Or “yeah it sucks here but my wife likes that she doesn’t have to work.” Or better yet “this place sucks but we’re just tying to get our kids through school then I’m outta here.” All depressing but truthful answers that are acceptable and don’t set off any alarms with other pilots that you’re sharing a cockpit with.
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Old 28th Apr 2018, 10:54
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Maybe you should just give them a list of answers you think are acceptable before asking the question. You don't think you may be the one with the problem? The others seem happy here so stay. But you seem unhappy here, yet still stay. They may be a bit nervous sharing a cockpit with you. Ya never know.
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Old 28th Apr 2018, 13:19
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Well Don if I’m the problem they are free to kick me off the trip. At this point it would be a blessing.
Judging by the amount of very experienced pilots that are leaving the airline and have left the airline and the quality and quantity of pilots that are trying to join Emirates I don’t think I’m the one with the problem. And yes I’m actively trying to get that coveted Delta interview and it can’t come soon enough.
If you think nothing is amiss here than have at it. Just tell your crew beforehand but I think you’re just trying to whine us up because I believe you are intelligent enough to realize that things here are more than a tad askew. Just ask all the pilots that have left (Sops, etc) and have their applications out. They are more than the pilots that say everything is great here, thankfully. Even Harry is considering leaving if things don’t get better. Doesn’t that speak volumes to the pilot group?
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