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Watching with amusement as your dramatic crap - amongst others - has failed to produce a link to a govt site, DOJ wbsite, Cal state felony database, local media link - etc etc, validating a conviction.
Once produced, we old fellows will be happy to park our suspicion and celebrate the downfall of a convicted sex offender-
g shoal?Once produced, we old fellows will be happy to park our suspicion and celebrate the downfall of a convicted sex offender-
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I'm still here Bonway but tiring of your constant negativity and repetitive verbal aggression to non dissenters!Perhaps you need to calm down and look at the thread title. Nobody was defending this indivudual, merely discussing matters related to the rumour of solo landings.
The thread has now moved onto something completely different, of which I know nothing about. His guilt or innocence is not for me to comment on or defend nor should it be given the seriousness of the allegations.
And for the record, the vast majority of EK pilots are not 'stuck' here, we choose to be here. Otherwise we would leave. I know that's a difficult concept to grasp but the sooner you do, the less desperate your posts will appear.
Harry
The thread has now moved onto something completely different, of which I know nothing about. His guilt or innocence is not for me to comment on or defend nor should it be given the seriousness of the allegations.
And for the record, the vast majority of EK pilots are not 'stuck' here, we choose to be here. Otherwise we would leave. I know that's a difficult concept to grasp but the sooner you do, the less desperate your posts will appear.
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No, I don't speak for the 4200, merely responding to Bonway's assumption that EK pilots are 'stuck' here. Nobody forces anyone to stay, as evidenced by an attrition rate of around 5%. Given also that it is always the same proportionally small number of negative posters, would it be wrong to conclude that a large number who don't read PPRune, let alone post, are generally content to stay? Being content to stay is also somewhat different to being content with all T&C's.
Perhaps it's Bonway you need to be lecturing about assumptions, not me.
Perhaps it's Bonway you need to be lecturing about assumptions, not me.
Really? You speak for 4200 pilots Harry? I didn't hear of the poll distributed to the pilots.
Don't make all-encompassing statements that you can't validate. The moment you do, any credibility you had as the (somewhat skewed, pro-EK) voice of reason dissipates into the ether.
M.
Don't make all-encompassing statements that you can't validate. The moment you do, any credibility you had as the (somewhat skewed, pro-EK) voice of reason dissipates into the ether.
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I flew with an American who flew the F-22 and went to Stanford. I forget his name but I could look it up.
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That sounds a lot like the Boeing CP who stated at one of the meetings "it is the same 1 % of pilots who cause all the problems. There is too much negativity, you just need to think positive."
If it is only 1 % of pilots causing problems, why the sudden need for Management to conduct meetings during RGTS, in an auditorium, and run for over an hour when only 30 mins is planned? Especially knowing how extremely lazy they are?
As I read your posts Harry I keep thinking that it appears that you have placed yourself into a bubble for survival that comes very close to the Lego Movie mantra. Fair enough, if that is what gets you through. But at the same time, it is incorrect to state that the vast majority of pilots are not stuck in Dubai. From the bond (double bond now), to the requirement to get enough Command hours to get a job elsewhere, to the simple operation of seniority lists at airlines, many, many pilots are stuck. And that's not mentioning the pilots who have the wrong passports, who would run if they could. A simple chat to your colleague on the flight deck shows that the statement you are trying to defend is simply false.
I find that your posts are becoming merely a play on words, rather than a genuine contrary opinion.
If it is only 1 % of pilots causing problems, why the sudden need for Management to conduct meetings during RGTS, in an auditorium, and run for over an hour when only 30 mins is planned? Especially knowing how extremely lazy they are?
As I read your posts Harry I keep thinking that it appears that you have placed yourself into a bubble for survival that comes very close to the Lego Movie mantra. Fair enough, if that is what gets you through. But at the same time, it is incorrect to state that the vast majority of pilots are not stuck in Dubai. From the bond (double bond now), to the requirement to get enough Command hours to get a job elsewhere, to the simple operation of seniority lists at airlines, many, many pilots are stuck. And that's not mentioning the pilots who have the wrong passports, who would run if they could. A simple chat to your colleague on the flight deck shows that the statement you are trying to defend is simply false.
I find that your posts are becoming merely a play on words, rather than a genuine contrary opinion.
Very true! Congratulations
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And that doesn’t include the pilots that have gone for interviews at other airlines and have failed the process.
The vast number of Emirates pilots that have gone for an interview at Delta have failed. Buford and myself try and do everything to help the applicant in what to say and not to say and understand what Delta wants but it is not working out. The company knows that the EK pilots have extreme fatigue and are at 9 hr time zone disadvantage when they interview but you have to meet the minimums.
So I would never speak for an entire group but I would say some to a lot of pilots are indeed stuck at their current position. Poor Bastards. It is sooo much better on the outside.
The vast number of Emirates pilots that have gone for an interview at Delta have failed. Buford and myself try and do everything to help the applicant in what to say and not to say and understand what Delta wants but it is not working out. The company knows that the EK pilots have extreme fatigue and are at 9 hr time zone disadvantage when they interview but you have to meet the minimums.
So I would never speak for an entire group but I would say some to a lot of pilots are indeed stuck at their current position. Poor Bastards. It is sooo much better on the outside.
Could it be the advice you are giving that is fecking them up neptune?
Good thread drift. Starts with a rumour of a landing. Moves to kiddy fiddling. Then onto delusional past career choices. And now here we are with Delta....... Again.
Good thread drift. Starts with a rumour of a landing. Moves to kiddy fiddling. Then onto delusional past career choices. And now here we are with Delta....... Again.
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I know lots of guys at Delta and the other majors who couldn’t get hired at EK & CX ten years ago - doesn’t mean I’ll go on Airline Pilot Central and shout “ the only reason you’re there is you couldn’t get on here” because I’d sound like a DB, you know the type - Airbubba
I don’t know many Americans stuck at EK. I do know some guys who are exclusively looking at one or two carriers and either the interview didn’t work out or they are waiting for that one carrier, which would not be my game plan if I decided to return, but we are all different. There are tons of jobs in US if one really wants to get back, hit the roadshows etc.
With all of the above said in no way can anyone speak for the entire group of Americans (263) at EK - no shortage of that from the usual suspects as always.
I don’t know many Americans stuck at EK. I do know some guys who are exclusively looking at one or two carriers and either the interview didn’t work out or they are waiting for that one carrier, which would not be my game plan if I decided to return, but we are all different. There are tons of jobs in US if one really wants to get back, hit the roadshows etc.
With all of the above said in no way can anyone speak for the entire group of Americans (263) at EK - no shortage of that from the usual suspects as always.
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The vast number of Emirates pilots that have gone for an interview at Delta have failed.
So I would never speak for an entire group but I would say some to a lot of pilots are indeed stuck at their current position. Poor Bastards. It is sooo much better on the outside.
So I would never speak for an entire group but I would say some to a lot of pilots are indeed stuck at their current position. Poor Bastards. It is sooo much better on the outside.
With such a strong post ...we are all looking fwd to wishing you well @ your new gig at Delta...and good luck on the 777 upgrade in 2035...
The only way I am drinking your "kool- aid" and paying homage to the DAL pilots testiculos...
Is when they get the following..
...777 upgrade at 4 yr seniority
... 1st $100k tax free
...silver Chauffeur sedan to and from Atlanta airport from my house
... $50,000 per year to pay my mortgage
...a smile from the FG 1 more than once a decade
...cash per diem, envelope local currency on check in at hotel.
... Virtually free healthcare
The only way I am drinking your "kool- aid" and paying homage to the DAL pilots testiculos...
Is when they get the following..
...777 upgrade at 4 yr seniority
... 1st $100k tax free
...silver Chauffeur sedan to and from Atlanta airport from my house
... $50,000 per year to pay my mortgage
...a smile from the FG 1 more than once a decade
...cash per diem, envelope local currency on check in at hotel.
... Virtually free healthcare
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[quote=Airbubba;10052280]I remember how one of the EK cheerleaders here tried to tell you and others what a mistake you were all making by going to Delta.
I can now see why he's a little defensive on what he perceives to be his forum.[/quote
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Airbubba buddy! Lol - you went back through six years of my posts to dig that up - fantastic, I must have really hit a nerve 😀
That was posted in May 2012 after we had received a 12 week profit share and an 8% bump (3% step and 5% increase) - the world was different then.
If you spent as much time researching whether this guy has a rap sheet as you did trolling my history (chuffed btw) -well enough said -
No point in me making you look silly - your doing all the work for me 👍
I can now see why he's a little defensive on what he perceives to be his forum.
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Airbubba buddy! Lol - you went back through six years of my posts to dig that up - fantastic, I must have really hit a nerve 😀
That was posted in May 2012 after we had received a 12 week profit share and an 8% bump (3% step and 5% increase) - the world was different then.
If you spent as much time researching whether this guy has a rap sheet as you did trolling my history (chuffed btw) -well enough said -
No point in me making you look silly - your doing all the work for me 👍
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For those that said that they will happily accept the allegations made against our colleague, if others provided credible information on this website, what would be stopping you carrying out your own due diligence? The research I carried out went far more in depth than relying on the screenshot that was circulated and this is what many have simply relied on. Any links I could provide would be useless if posted here, as the information is password protected, as I had to register to gain access. The information I obtained is detailed and surprisingly invasive but it was obtained through channels that are legal and open to anyone, should they feel inclined. It is up to us to inform ourselves appropriately and in turn formulate our own decisions and leave the squabbles to one side. Whilst I have made up my own mind based on what I researched, someone else could come to the opposite conclusion after viewing the very same information. This would be no different to what you would see with a jury in court. To wait for others to bring the information to the table and do nothing yourself, is akin to burying ones head in the sand and deny that this might have happened.
The fact that a person with such a criminal history could share a flight deck with us at EK, is a concern in its own right but this also affects our lives away from work too, with many of us having colleagues in the same neighbourhood. One of the good things about living in this place is that it’s relatively safe and secure and especially for kids. I don’t have any kids myself but I would hazard a guess that many families with kids here in Dubai are perhaps a bit more liberal with how much freedom they extend to their kids, than back at home. We have no union here and if this whole charade is true, then I can guarantee that the company will do all that it can to brush such an episode under the carpet, as is the modus operandi in this part of the world for anything remotely embarrassing. Whilst we alone will have next to nothing in the way of influence in shaping how the company could modify checks and processes for new employees, the one thing we can do on this website is to highlight and discuss any flaws that may exist with these current checks and processes. The internet is a powerful tool for communication and it is the number one thorn for the company in dealing with issues that they would rather forget. This issue of potentially having undesirable applicants ‘slipping through the net’ could be one that they would rather forget yet could be one that affects us all including our families.
The fact that a person with such a criminal history could share a flight deck with us at EK, is a concern in its own right but this also affects our lives away from work too, with many of us having colleagues in the same neighbourhood. One of the good things about living in this place is that it’s relatively safe and secure and especially for kids. I don’t have any kids myself but I would hazard a guess that many families with kids here in Dubai are perhaps a bit more liberal with how much freedom they extend to their kids, than back at home. We have no union here and if this whole charade is true, then I can guarantee that the company will do all that it can to brush such an episode under the carpet, as is the modus operandi in this part of the world for anything remotely embarrassing. Whilst we alone will have next to nothing in the way of influence in shaping how the company could modify checks and processes for new employees, the one thing we can do on this website is to highlight and discuss any flaws that may exist with these current checks and processes. The internet is a powerful tool for communication and it is the number one thorn for the company in dealing with issues that they would rather forget. This issue of potentially having undesirable applicants ‘slipping through the net’ could be one that they would rather forget yet could be one that affects us all including our families.
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A little unfair and harsh there I think Mr Mugabe.
Though I don't entirely buy the 'password protected' excuse for not posting details.
A screenshot of the relevant details would satisfy most of us I think Emma.
Though I don't entirely buy the 'password protected' excuse for not posting details.
A screenshot of the relevant details would satisfy most of us I think Emma.
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With such a sensitive issue, I have from the outset attempted to post with with a degree of tact and diplomacy. If my posts are considered to be ego fulfilling and childish then I can assure you that is most certainly not my intention, yet I make absolutely no apology for what I have said on this topic so far.
The information I obtained was from a data provider and it is their business to sell data on individuals and companies to others. I availed myself of a trial period and I cancelled the trial after downloading what I wanted, so I paid nothing in the end. Not withstanding that, I don't see why I should potentially cause problems for myself by effectively distributing a product from elsewhere, which could be widely circulated and potentially being traced back to me. Also of note is the post made by Talparc which contained the link to the screenshot that so many of us have seen, seems to have been deleted already.
A crime involving a minor which is linked to an individual with the same name and DOB as our colleague, was recorded in San Joaquin CA with charges filed in August 2008 (as previously mentioned) and the same individual being placed on the California Sex Offenders Register with their ID number ending in 3770. That is as much as I am willing to post on here.
The information I obtained was from a data provider and it is their business to sell data on individuals and companies to others. I availed myself of a trial period and I cancelled the trial after downloading what I wanted, so I paid nothing in the end. Not withstanding that, I don't see why I should potentially cause problems for myself by effectively distributing a product from elsewhere, which could be widely circulated and potentially being traced back to me. Also of note is the post made by Talparc which contained the link to the screenshot that so many of us have seen, seems to have been deleted already.
A crime involving a minor which is linked to an individual with the same name and DOB as our colleague, was recorded in San Joaquin CA with charges filed in August 2008 (as previously mentioned) and the same individual being placed on the California Sex Offenders Register with their ID number ending in 3770. That is as much as I am willing to post on here.
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With such a sensitive issue, I have from the outset attempted to post with with a degree of tact and diplomacy. If my posts are considered to be ego fulfilling and childish then I can assure you that is most certainly not my intention, yet I make absolutely no apology for what I have said on this topic so far.
The information I obtained was from a data provider and it is their business to sell data on individuals and companies to others. I availed myself of a trial period and I cancelled the trial after downloading what I wanted, so I paid nothing in the end. Not withstanding that, I don't see why I should potentially cause problems for myself by effectively distributing a product from elsewhere, which could be widely circulated and potentially being traced back to me. Also of note is the post made by Talparc which contained the link to the screenshot that so many of us have seen, seems to have been deleted already.
A crime involving a minor which is linked to an individual with the same name and DOB as our colleague, was recorded in San Joaquin CA with charges filed in August 2008 (as previously mentioned) and the same individual being placed on the California Sex Offenders Register with their ID number ending in 3770. That is as much as I am willing to post on here.
The information I obtained was from a data provider and it is their business to sell data on individuals and companies to others. I availed myself of a trial period and I cancelled the trial after downloading what I wanted, so I paid nothing in the end. Not withstanding that, I don't see why I should potentially cause problems for myself by effectively distributing a product from elsewhere, which could be widely circulated and potentially being traced back to me. Also of note is the post made by Talparc which contained the link to the screenshot that so many of us have seen, seems to have been deleted already.
A crime involving a minor which is linked to an individual with the same name and DOB as our colleague, was recorded in San Joaquin CA with charges filed in August 2008 (as previously mentioned) and the same individual being placed on the California Sex Offenders Register with their ID number ending in 3770. That is as much as I am willing to post on here.
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You don’t lose your passport as a registered sex offender. You might be surprised if you went through every name of your seniority list.
A 2017 law -
The change by federal authorities will require child offenders to re-apply for passports that will contain the phrase, "The bearer was convicted of a sex offense against a minor, and is a covered sex offender pursuant to (U.S. law)." New passports issued to pedophiles will also bear the phrase.
A 2017 law -
The change by federal authorities will require child offenders to re-apply for passports that will contain the phrase, "The bearer was convicted of a sex offense against a minor, and is a covered sex offender pursuant to (U.S. law)." New passports issued to pedophiles will also bear the phrase.
