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Old 19th Feb 2018, 12:07
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Originally Posted by Python27
Yep. 80% of them from one fleet.
Really? Try another random percentage.....that one doesn’t quite work....
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Old 19th Feb 2018, 15:39
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Originally Posted by surely not View Post

Sure EK, EY and QR are undergoing tough times right now, if they were American they might be looking to file Chapter 11 to escape their problems. Isn't Chapter 11 a form of subsidising an airline and allowing it to still fly whilst owing loads of dosh all over the place?
I would say no. Maybe it's something else, but not a subsidy. I'm sure the investors having their investments fractionalized or zero'd out would also agree. Also, legitimate companies don't make long-term business plans that include bankruptcy. The same cannot be said of direct or indirect government subsidies.

Right now, global airline profits have never been higher. If the ME3 are not sharing in the good times, better customer experience or not, then I think that points to other structural issues. For instance, there have been several well thought out posts on here suggesting that,unlike western carriers, financial profitability is not necessarily the primary goal of the firm.
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Old 19th Feb 2018, 15:50
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In fact it was always in the middle east: pure façade, all nice, but once you dig deeper you see a mess. I call it: living on a bubble. Eyes wide shut!
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Old 19th Feb 2018, 16:39
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National airlines are a source of national pride, prestige and jobs in the same way as some car industries and banks that most governments (notably the USA) have no problem at all with bailing out from bankruptcy or creating unfair tariffs to protect them

and notably BA until 1987
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Old 19th Feb 2018, 21:41
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Originally Posted by Fuzuma View Post
Really? Try another random percentage.....that one doesn’t quite work....
If it's random, gimme a number airman...
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Old 20th Feb 2018, 05:00
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Originally Posted by donpizmeov
Several QR pilots joining EK atm.
Explain how 80% of 7 joiners came from a single fleet........muppet
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Old 20th Feb 2018, 06:03
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Hahahahaha
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Old 20th Feb 2018, 10:11
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Originally Posted by Fuzuma View Post
Explain how 80% of 7 joiners came from a single fleet........muppet
You're not counting those who already passed on the assessment, only waiting for the DOJ. Arse...
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Old 21st Feb 2018, 08:55
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Originally Posted by Python27
You're not counting those who already passed on the assessment, only waiting for the DOJ.
How was I or any other reader of your post, supposed to know how many had already passed? You referenced the 7 new joiners, hence my amusement at your lack of arithmetic.

Perhaps to avoid further embarrassment to yourself, you should clearly state what you are including in your supposed statistics......
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Old 21st Feb 2018, 09:43
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Well that escalated a bit. And am not sure several equals 7. But what the hey.
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Old 21st Feb 2018, 10:09
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Originally Posted by donpizmeov View Post
Well that escalated a bit. And am not sure several equals 7. But what the hey.
At risk of thread creep, I think the most important number is the 800+ pilots we are still short.
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Old 21st Feb 2018, 10:20
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IBE8720 - a 320 qr pilot. The worst job in ME. I.e couldn't pass the interview for anything else, explains his problem with EK.


Fuzzy - staff number starts 44...

Can't make this stuff up.
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Old 21st Feb 2018, 11:23
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Would only be 400 if they are the same size as whitey bananas.
It's another fine mess they have got themselves into.
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Old 21st Feb 2018, 12:03
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That post is super cryptic Don.
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Old 21st Feb 2018, 13:35
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[QUOTE=Xulu;10060169]IBE8720 - a 320 qr pilot. The worst job in ME. I.e couldn't pass the interview for anything else, explains his problem with EK.

Says who?
I don't see numerous threads with endless posts bashing QR like there is about EK.
Quite happy with my job Habibi. I can accept the reality of the situation. Not live in a fantasy land that my employer is morally and ethically superior to all others.
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Old 21st Feb 2018, 14:01
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Originally Posted by Xulu View Post
IBE8720 - a 320 qr pilot. The worst job in ME. I.e couldn't pass the interview for anything else, explains his problem with EK
By the sounds of it on this forum, I’d say EK is the worst job in the ME ie. more likely that it’s you who couldn’t pass the interview for anything else
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Old 21st Feb 2018, 14:21
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Originally Posted by don
Would only be 400 if they are the same size as whitey bananas.
I'd be happy with doubling the salary habibito go with that!


Originally Posted by IBE8720
I don't see numerous threads with endless posts bashing QR like there is about EK.
Of course you don't. Any QR bashing by a QR pilot would probably lead to a one way desert trip for said pilot
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Old 21st Feb 2018, 16:32
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Originally Posted by Fuzuma View Post
How was I or any other reader of your post, supposed to know how many had already passed? You referenced the 7 new joiners, hence my amusement at your lack of arithmetic.

Perhaps to avoid further embarrassment to yourself, you should clearly state what you are including in your supposed statistics......
Well, while I work on my arithmetic issue, work on your networking issue. Go have a beer with friends and colleagues, and refine your number.

And keep counting
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Old 21st Feb 2018, 16:33
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Meanwhile, at the local kindergarten...
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Old 21st Feb 2018, 19:20
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While EK has its problems - the fact we can confidently vent about it on a public forum shows the difference in employer to other ME companies.

If we could hear the horror stories of QR lashings and curfews etc, we'd soon stop complaining.
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