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Old 27th Jan 2018, 03:37
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Man restrained and "beaten" on EK flight

Family claims elderly man beaten, restrained on Emirates flight to Chicago | abc7chicago.com

What happened ?!
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Old 27th Jan 2018, 03:47
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If he was restrained there was a good reason. Trust an american immigrant to play the "victim card". Probably looking for a pay day. Good luck with that.
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Old 27th Jan 2018, 09:15
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What happened?

A pax was restrained which only happens if they are endangering themselves or others.

Unfortunately restraints often result in injuries to both the crew and the restrained person.

Without photographs or video that's all it is- a claim that he was "beaten". More likely he got injured in the process of restraining which can happen if the person resists or is themselves violent.

Fact is- the pax must have been acting in a manner that endangered himself or the other pax. They don't restrain lightly and without a good reason IMHO. Restraints follow exhausting all other conflict management once those have failed.

Given the wording of the wife it seems she was not on the flight- crew do not "tie up" they handcuff.
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Given the wording of the wife it seems she was not on the flight- crew do not "tie up" they handcuff

possible she confused the plastic cuffs as being tied
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Will have to wait and see, but the crew would not restrain a passenger without serious concerns for his safety and that of other pax on board. Maybe looking for a little extra cash??
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Given the wording of the wife it seems she was not on the flight- crew do not "tie up" they handcuff

possible she confused the plastic cuffs as being tied
Possibly, but a Google brings up several articles that state he was flying aline for the first time.

Another quotes the family as saying he sat in the wrong seat and when the crew moved him there was an issue with luggage of some sort.

I'm guessing it might have been the usual lack of hatrack space but given this spposedly happened 8 hours from Chicago, who knows.

The statement from EK mentions only that he became 'unruly' and was restrained.

Given his age I'm wondering if dementia/confusion was a possibility, also no charges have been laid so perhaps it was a case of restraining him for his own safety...

Guess time will tell
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Agreed cantbebothered.

Emirates doesn't just beat and restrain random passengers.

That behavior is reserved for pursers and pilots.
See? I had my laugh today cheerios. Slick. Good for the training college next slogan.
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Did he failed his PPC?
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He must have said “Qatar Deserves The Best”.
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Originally Posted by cheerios
Agreed cantbebothered.

Emirates doesn't just beat and restrain random passengers.

That behavior is reserved for pursers and pilots.
They looking for new victims. Cabin crew recruitment is back on. Vacancy has been published yesterday.
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72-year-old man hospitalized in Chicago after being bound, beaten on Emirates flight | abc7chicago.com
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Accoding to Emirates,

"The passenger was handed over to the authorities on arrival in Chicago."

Whoah boy! Once again, Chicago avation to the rescue. What is it about 72 year old men that airlines do not like? Wonder if these authorities were good friends of Oscar Munoz (CEO of United Airlines):

"... crew members 'were left with no choice but to call Chicago aviation security officers to assist in removing the customer from the flight.'"

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...er-belligerent
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he was a spy sent by Delta to "equalize" the pressure
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Heard from a CC on my flight that the old man pulled up a CC's skirt on the flight.
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Can’t be true. In US only white people cause problems.
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Heard from a CC on my flight that the old man pulled up a CC's skirt on the flight.
Wouldn't be the first time a pax has done that. At least sounds like something was done about it on this occasion (I'm guessing if this is what actually happened, he got rowdy when told the behaviour had to stop- pervs usually don't like being outed publicly ime)
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'The Reverend' Jesse Jackson is predictably on the case. He is sometimes retained for a fee as a 'consultant' in settlements of alleged victimization claims involving diversity issues. We'll see if Emirates pays him off this time.

“This is an egregious and ugly situation,” Rev. Jesse L. Jackson, Sr., founder and president of the Rainbow PUSH Coalition, said after meeting Friday afternoon with the battered passenger, David Ukesone, and his family at PUSH headquarters.

The wounds from the restraints around Mr. Ukesone’s wrists and ankles have yet to fully heal and were clearly visible during his meeting at PUSH more than a week after the Jan. 23 flight. Upon landing, Mr. Ukesone was not charged and was rushed to a Chicago hospital where he spent four days.

“He was sick, not dangerous,” Rev. Jackson said.

Rev. Jackson contacted Emirates Airlines Friday to schedule a meeting with company officials as soon as possible to resolve “the situation and to make sure it never happens again.” Rev. Jackson is also scheduling meetings with the ambassadors from Nigeria and the United Arab Emirates.

“This should never have happened,” Rev. Jackson said. “It was excessive and unnecessary violence against anyone, not to mention a 74-year-old man on his first international flight.”
https://rainbowpush.org/blog/media-a...y-rainbow-push

And of course, the alleged perp has filed the customary shakedown lawsuit:

Thursday, February 01, 2018 06:40PM
CHICAGO (WLS) --

A 71-year-old man who says he was bound and beaten on an international flight to Chicago is suing Emirates Airlines.

In the lawsuit, filed this week, lawyers for David Ukesone said he was tied down for eight hours without food or water on a flight from Dubai last week.

Ukesone claims the incident started when the crew members told him he sat in the wrong seat.

The airline said the crew restrained Ukesone because of unruly behavior.

Ukesone said he spent four days in the hospital after the flight.
Man who says he was bound, beaten on flight sues Emirates Airlines | abc7chicago.com

A troubling narrative from an eyewitness:

Nigerian immigrant David Ukesone said he was assaulted and detained for sitting in the wrong seat on his first international flight. He said he was bound and beaten by the airline staff.

But Chad Birkholz was a passenger on the plane and says he was sitting one row ahead of Ukesone and across the aisle.

Birkholz says Ukesone had been acting erratically and was pacing back-and-forth, holding his briefcase for nearly two hours before he suddenly grabbed a child.

“I was watching a movie and looked over in the area he was pacing,” Birkholz said. “And the next thing I know, I see him picking up a child and the mother immediately jumping up trying to get her child back.”

Birkholz says Ukesone then slipped into business class, where he caused a commotion.

“He was up there and started to yell and scream,” Birkholz said. “He eventually bit a passenger, broke a finger of one of the flight attendants and had to be restrained.”

Ukesone spent the remainder of the flight, about 8 hours, in restraints.
Witness says passenger was acting erratically before being detained on flight | WGN-TV
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Old 4th Feb 2018, 04:55
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Bit a pax and broke a finger?

The crew should be suing HIM...
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The eyewitness account tells a completely different story so the truth about what happened probably lies somewhere between the two. Either way I agree with the previous posters he must have been well out of order for the crew to have restrained him. It would be an absolutely last resort.

I really do hope that the law suit ends up in court so that the whole story comes out. Poor judgement on Rev. Jackson’s behalf to jump on this publicity vehicle as I see a crash imminent.
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Old 4th Feb 2018, 07:26
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Class please put these two words in a sentence, victim and card.
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