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Old 16th Jan 2018, 07:47
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Originally Posted by White Knight View Post
Maybe edit the title of the thread then?
"Spokespeople for Etihad and Flydubai and Air Arabia said their aircraft were not involved in the incident".

- ergo it would be EK if it had actually happened. But... no crew, no passengers, no flight code: no correlation with reality.
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Old 16th Jan 2018, 08:59
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I find it hard to believe that in this day and age of social media and instantly uploadable videos, that nothing from the pax has appeared on Facebook or Youtube. I call bu##$&it.
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Old 16th Jan 2018, 09:57
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Originally Posted by Jack330 View Post
It looks like another excuse since the blockade didnít go as planned and qatar is moving on anyways, even with some extra difficulties....
That's certainly the impression that I'm getting. Qatar is surviving the blockade rather well, other than the run on the supermarkets in the hours after it was announced.

The amount of evidence of an actual intercept seems rather.... thin.
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Old 16th Jan 2018, 09:57
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Donít forget that, even if they have substantial differences, theyíre from the same breed !! Itís in the arabs nature to simulate things, to show theyíre always right and so on..
Also, Qatar Airways became a real 5 star airline, way better than emirates Saudia and ethiad, you canít even compare ( on safety as well ) and I think this is burning the others inside..
A small state with so much success... The blockade is having the opposite effect.
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Old 16th Jan 2018, 11:07
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Originally Posted by Bonway View Post
I've searched high and low on all the available facilities. There is absolutely no evidence of any airborne interceptions in the region within the timeframe given. This can only be yet another bullst story from the UAE Ministry of Fiction and Fantasy.
What evidence were you looking for and where? I don't think there are any online ATC feeds to review and the flight trackers wouldn't indicate an intercept if the military planes didn't show and the airliners stayed on course.

EK837 appears to be descending into Bahrain on P699 before breaking off for vectors prior to SOGAT at about 0633Z. They do appear to be close to 12 miles from the Qatar coast before turning away.

GF501, also DXB-BAH, seems to be on a different set of rules, it passes near the Qatari coast for a landing on runway 30 at BAH.

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I find it hard to believe that in this day and age of social media and instantly uploadable videos, that nothing from the pax has appeared on Facebook or Youtube. I call bu##$&it.
According to a GCAA media release, there were witnesses:

ABU DHABI, 15th January, 2018 (WAM) -- The UAE's General Civil Aviation Authority, GCAA, said that on Monday Qatar's military aircraft intercepted two civilian UAE planes carrying a total of 277 passengers while preparing to land in Manama International Airport.

The GCAA added that both flights were in regular pre-scheduled services and they followed all standard procedures, including obtaining of necessary permissions to fly.

"The Qatari fighter jets intercepted the first plane at 10:30, while the second was intercepted at 11:05 while flying at 9,000 to 10,000 feet altitude in regular flights approved by the International Civil Aviation Organisation, ICAO," said Saif Al Suwaidi, Director-General of the GCAA.

He added that Bahraini radars detected the Qatari jets as they intercepted the UAE civilian flights.

"Moreover, the crews and passengers saw the incidents with their naked eyes, which proves that the interception posed a present and clear threat to the lives of innocent civilians," he informed.
From the times given, the intercepted flights would probably be EK837 and EY371 (aka ETD23B). CX745 DXB-BAH follows a few minutes later on a similar track as the UAE flights but presumably doesn't get intercepted.

I agree that it would be odd that an airliner intercept in daylight wouldn't quickly make it to Facebook and YouTube even if the pilots were afraid to comment publically about the alleged incidents.

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Old 16th Jan 2018, 13:04
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Originally Posted by Bonway View Post
I can look where you can't. There were NO interceptions!
And lemme guess, you can't say where you get your mysterious secret powers to see these things, right?
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Old 16th Jan 2018, 15:28
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Originally Posted by Bonway View Post
Actually, I can. Radar tapes. There was no military interception in that area at the times claimed. Not only that, but no aircraft fit for the job were airborne in the area at the time either. This is once again standard UAE bullst. Let's wait for it and see what the reason was for making these false allegations. I'm sure time will tell just as it did with the Saudi allegations of Scud missiles being shot at Riyadh.
Dude. As if you had access to any radar tape... If at all it would be secondary radar and during an intercept the fighters would have been under "due regard" with secondary switched off. I haven't been there and don't know what happened there... but neither do you...
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Another alleged report of the intercept with a claim of confirming radar video from the Associated Press:

Bahrain said on Tuesday that radar tracks showed Qatari fighter jets passing by Emirati commercial airliners on their way to the island nation, encounters which started a new dispute between the Gulf nations amid the diplomatic crisis gripping Doha.

The two alleged fly-bys on Monday morning could further escalate tensions between Qatar and the four Arab nations that have been boycotting it for months, among them the UAE, home to the world's busiest international airport. They also could affect long-haul airline travel, as the region's carriers are a crucial link between the East and West.

Emirati officials on Monday described the fly-bys as though the fighter jets "intercepted" their civilian aircraft. Qatari officials deny their jets intercepted the aircraft and on Tuesday dismissed the footage as "unauthenticated videos."

Bahrain state television aired radar footage the broadcaster described as showing Emirates flight No. EK837 from Dubai flying toward Bahrain International Airport at 3,170 meters (10,400 feet). Two other radar signals the broadcaster described as Qatari fighter jets flew at around 2,590 meters (8,500 feet) in front of the Emirates flight. The radar screen briefly flashes orange text, likely a collision warning.

It wasn't clear from the footage at what distance the fighter jets allegedly passed the Emirates flight, but Bahrain previously described the distance as being 3.2 kilometers (2 miles).

The broadcaster also aired footage of an aeronautical chart it said showed a Qatari fighter jet flying across the flight path of a just-passed Etihad airliner, both at 24,000 meters (8,000 feet). It identified the flight as ETD23B, which corresponds to Flight No. EY371, a direct Abu Dhabi-Bahrain flight that took off Monday morning.

Both Dubai-based Emirates and Abu Dhabi-based Etihad have declined to comment. Both flights flew in international waters just north of the tip of Qatar, a peninsular nation that juts into the Arabian Gulf, before landing in nearby Bahrain.
https://www.khaleejtimes.com/region/...ing-uae-planes
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Old 16th Jan 2018, 17:29
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Asked some Emirates people...

... and there is no gossip about it inside the company.
Total nonsense. An event like this would make a big splash on verifiable sources. The absence of any evidence is proof beyond a reasonable doubt.
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Old 16th Jan 2018, 17:45
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The daily mail is carring it .
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Old 16th Jan 2018, 18:04
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The Bahrain radar tapes have been released showing one of the interceptions. A quick search of the net will show it despite many posting that they have insider info denying the fact.
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Originally Posted by TwoHeadedTroll View Post
Asked some Emirates people...

... and there is no gossip about it inside the company.
And we all know how the denizens of Worker's Paradise are encouraged to freely share their views on UAE lies and corruption, right?

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Total nonsense. An event like this would make a big splash on verifiable sources. The absence of any evidence is proof beyond a reasonable doubt.
Somehow I don't find your argument convincing.

Did the Qataris pass a couple of thousand feet below EK837 outbound from Doha, show up on BAH radar unannounced and cause an alert on ATC radar and perhaps a TCAS RA? And a few minutes later pass behind EY371? Were these the 'intercepts'?

Or, were there never any Qatari jets in the area at all as some claim?

Maybe someone with secret access to 'the tapes' can tell us the details.

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Old 16th Jan 2018, 18:08
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Itís all over EK wives so it must be true
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Originally Posted by Confirmative View Post
The Bahrain radar tapes have been released showing one of the interceptions. A quick search of the net will show it despite many posting that they have insider info denying the fact.
Here's one of the video clips of the Bahrain ATC tapes:

VIDEO: Radar footage shows Qatar jets intercepting UAE flights - Al Arabiya English
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Old 18th Jan 2018, 04:46
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Qatar is maintaining as low profile as possible not to provoke anyone, there's nothing to prove this happened so I guess innocent until proven otherwise, right? With all the electronics run by the Americans in Al Udeid Base I doubt there's a millimetre of sky that's not closely monitored by them. Let's leave it to a, shall we say, more uninterested party to confirm this. Been reading these newspapers to long to even believe the Cinema timings on them.
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Originally Posted by Airbubba View Post
Here's one of the video clips of the Bahrain ATC tapes:

VIDEO: Radar footage shows Qatar jets intercepting UAE flights - Al Arabiya English
I'm a layman when it comes to intercepts, but in the video I do not see any sign of an intercept. I always believed that the distance between airplanes would be MUCH smaller. I.e. the captain of the intercepted aircraft can see the fillings in the teeth of the military jet pilot. The other fighter should be behind the intercepted plane to uhmmm... do the needful, if the intercepted plane deviates from its course. Also, right at the point that it starts to become interesting, the video cuts out. I call BS...
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