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Job satisfaction in Qatar Airways

Old 19th May 2018, 19:06
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Originally Posted by ColgatePlax View Post


Have they really stopped DEC intake?
DECs in the talent pool received an email a few days ago saying that the company currently doesn't have any plans to hire DECs and they will advise if any opportunity comes up.

So apparently QR is not planning on hiring DEC in the near future.
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Old 22nd May 2018, 01:55
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Originally Posted by Lepo View Post
DECs in the talent pool received an email a few days ago saying that the company currently doesn't have any plans to hire DECs and they will advise if any opportunity comes up.

So apparently QR is not planning on hiring DEC in the near future.
Same email Iíve received then. Thanks mate.
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Old 22nd May 2018, 21:00
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To the TO. As a former QR skipper(left running in 2009) I can tell you - this airline has as many issues (if not even more) then their southern neighbours. After all A.B. is still in power and that old pilot hater just had to increase the T&C's otherwise they would NEVER expand because they lost more pilots then they could hire.

I guess now, with the blockage, business is slowing down, so less need for DEC's(and you can keep you FO's happy by upgrading them). Even Emirates is parking aircraft, might hurt QR eventually as well being hated by all it's neighbours(surprise, such lovely memories I have to that place on the sun ^^).

QR has a lot of issues. As far as I heard they still fire people for stupid reasons, so be prepared. The "package" may have improved but their mindset will never.
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Old 22nd May 2018, 21:19
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There are many here at Qatar who are very happy and have no intention of looking for another job. The thing is, they can't be bothered coming on here and reading half the crap that is posted. Some guys left a few years ago and went to that airline you can't mentioned, then after a couple of years applied and came back. Some FOs just went to Emirates and some Emirates guys have arrived here. I will say this, I have no intention of going to any of the other airlines here in the region unless I need a job. I'm staying put for the time being. I know many here who are of the same mindset.
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Old 23rd May 2018, 00:56
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Originally Posted by Black Pudding View Post
There are many here at Qatar who are very happy and have no intention of looking for another job. The thing is, they can't be bothered coming on here and reading half the crap that is posted. Some guys left a few years ago and went to that airline you can't mentioned, then after a couple of years applied and came back. Some FOs just went to Emirates and some Emirates guys have arrived here. I will say this, I have no intention of going to any of the other airlines here in the region unless I need a job. I'm staying put for the time being. I know many here who are of the same mindset.
Agreed. A lot has changed since 2009. Probably 95% of the pilots I fly with don't have any intention of leaving anytime soon. The morale here seems to be a lot better than the pilots at our neighbouring airlines when I speak to my friends at the other 2. Even with the improved package at EK, for the same amount of flying, what you get at the end of the month with all allowances included is slightly more. But..... no bonus
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Old 24th May 2018, 02:11
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This might be both on and off topic at the same time. For the groundstaff I know itís been a revolving door. Having read the reviews on the job websites, there wasnít much positive feedback.
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Old 25th May 2018, 01:08
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Guys - honestly - and having seen to much of aviation business around the globe.

Back in the days we went to the ME only for ONE reason, to make money(or, to see which of the famous 2 buckets becomes full earlier, mine was the one with the ***t). The ME for me personally was a very good "cure" - I started to realize HOW good we are threathed back in Europe by MOST airlines(by far not all BUT at least you have legal possibilities to fight out your case. That is NOT the case in any ME country. Point.). That's why I decided to come back.

IF you want to make money nowadays you go to China. It's as simple as that. Even on commuting you make more or equal money then on sitting full time in the boring sandpit. Honestly, as a happy family man, I would neither choose ME or China, BUT IF you would think about there is only China. I am deeply surprised that there are still so many dragged down into the sandpit(well, must be the NG^^, always know better), their time, imho, down there was over nearly 10 years ago.

I know, there are always people that claim that they are happy down there, at my time there we made jokes that propably QR tampered with their water supply and added something ;-)....

If you want money, go to China - especially if you are young . If you want a proper life, clean air, good threatment for your family, job security, social security, retirement - stay in Europe. Well, you go to the middle east nowadays to get what....???? Sand? Go to the Italy, they have sand as well! PLUS - much nicer beaches. And offer a much better life btw.....
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Old 28th May 2018, 13:06
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There's a reason why the salary is high in China. And it is not because they like the pilots. You sign a contract and then after signing the negotiation starts. You will earn nowhere near the announced and promised figures. Enjoy the multi resistant infections unless in Shenzen or Shanghai!

In Europe the rosters are bad, no chance of flying long haul except for Norwegian, 15-20 years for upgrade on the majors, crappy salaries since you pay more than half of your salary in tax. If you live in Northern Europe you are taxed even more than that. How are you going to fight your cause if you are not even employed by the company?

Alot has happened in QR since 2009. At the moment I would personally not return to Europe considering the roster and salary.
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Old 29th May 2018, 04:17
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Originally Posted by APU_inop View Post
There's a reason why the salary is high in China. And it is not because they like the pilots. You sign a contract and then after signing the negotiation starts. You will earn nowhere near the announced and promised
Hmmm...I don't know about that one. My colleague needs a wheelbarrow to haul his money to the bank, that he makes with his operator based in the Capital. We have both worked together in Asia. It has been a very good experience. I retired quite enjoyably.
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Old 24th Aug 2018, 07:48
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Well I have got many friends working in China for different airlines. None of them has got any infection, even some cities are quite nice to live in, close to nature and mountains without much pollution. If you say a country like China is everywhere the same you deny the size and the diversity in the country itself. And they did not have to negotiate anything. One of my friends of flight school is meanwhile more than millionaire.
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Old 25th Aug 2018, 06:48
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Let them talk and bash things and places they have no clue about..They can enjoy a good row of 5 12 hrs European duties with 12 hrs rest in between, and still bashing a whole continent they have never worked in.
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Old 5th Sep 2018, 17:51
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Originally Posted by London legend View Post
We moved back to the UK.
culture and beauty in UK??????
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Old 13th Jul 2019, 07:49
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Type Rated captain B777 waiting for joining date

Originally Posted by ColgatePlax View Post


Have they really stopped DEC intake?
Hi Friends, I am in talent pool for the past 1 month. Any idea about joining dates of b777 type rated captains.. also available slots in the coming months. Thanks
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Old 13th Jul 2019, 17:59
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I don't doubt that tomuchwork had a shocking time in QR, but their opinion is now dated. Only the folks that are at the coal face can give you any constructive feedback. Although I left recently to return back to Blighty for the kids, I loved my time in Qatar, if you intend to come then do your research, if married, take your wife for a few days (preferably in Summer!)................remember I am not there any more so my opinion is nearly as worthless (I left this year)

There are plenty of things wrong with Qatar and QR, make sure you know what they are and whether you can put up with them. If you decide to have an adventure then make sure you intend to make the most of it. There are lots of things to do and places around the globe to visit, I also personally saved a lot of money there although I was seriously helped by the Brexit vote and consequential effect on the exchange rate.
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