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Airbus Working With EK on New Order for Flagship A380

Old 13th Nov 2017, 02:58
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Still another day today...let's wait and see
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Old 13th Nov 2017, 15:43
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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ing-a380-jumbo

Sheds some light on why there is no deal announced just yet.
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Old 14th Nov 2017, 03:13
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The Air Show isn't over till the fat lady sings.
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Old 14th Nov 2017, 08:31
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First retired A380 superjumbo parked at Tarmac Aerosave awaiting sale or scrap
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Old 15th Nov 2017, 08:08
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The lifespan is pretty poor! Btw, check out those first class seats! Now that’s game changing (but ours are still impressive)!
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Old 15th Nov 2017, 08:52
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430 aircraft (A320 and A321) ordered today at Dubaï Air Show, in a single contract.

To be allocated to Frontier Airlines (US) JetSMART (Chile) Volaris (Mexico) and Wizz Air (Hungary)

Who cares about a little A380 order from a Gulf company ?


http://www.airbus.com/newsroom/press...ily-order.html
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Old 15th Nov 2017, 09:59
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777x's and 787s! Reminds me of the mixed fleet 340/330 days. Life on the Boeing is going to be Hellish!
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Old 15th Nov 2017, 11:57
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Flydubai order for 225 737’s seems crazy.

Meanwhile, Boeing on Wednesday announced an order from Gulf airline flydubai for 225 medium-haul 737 MAX aircraft with a list price of $27bn, hailing it as the "largest-ever single-aisle jet order" from a Middle East carrier.

Copied from BBC news!
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Old 15th Nov 2017, 12:56
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Originally Posted by motley flight crue
.....hailing it as the "largest-ever single-aisle jet order" from a Middle East carrier.....
Copied from BBC news!
They couldn't say more, because the Indigo order for 430 Airbus (single-aisle, by the way) is hailed as the biggest order ever in the history of civil aviation.
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Old 15th Nov 2017, 19:55
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777x's and 787s! Reminds me of the mixed fleet 340/330 days. Life on the Boeing is going to be Hellish!
Standing by for announcement that 777 captains going to the 78 will have to move to the RHS and there will be minimum age requirement of 40 to sit in either seat. Meanwhile they will also advertise for DEC 787
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Old 16th Nov 2017, 10:15
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The thread was about EK and the A380. So lets leave the order of 320ies and the 77/78 MFF behind for a moment and read the AW&ST of today. The last sentence:

Dubai Airshow will be remembered as the week that precipitated a tough decision for the A380: A merciful death with considerable up-front losses or a lingering death with greater losses spaced out over a much longer period of time.

It's in the open what many have said for some time.
Now Timmy is playing hardball to shove all the damage down Airbus' throat, i guess.
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Old 16th Nov 2017, 11:37
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What else could you have been expecting from AW&ST, a magazine which has always been heralding US industry and nothing else ?
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Old 17th Nov 2017, 04:53
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Originally Posted by WakeTurb_69
777x's and 787s! Reminds me of the mixed fleet 340/330 days. Life on the Boeing is going to be Hellish!
Seems to me FZ will be taking over a lot if not most of EK short and mid haul with the 73-10MAX... fleet of 250 aircraft under code share.

777x to replace bulk of the 380 fleet in the distance future with no airbus order in sight for now.
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Old 17th Nov 2017, 05:42
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Originally Posted by Yorkshire_Pudding

777x to replace bulk of the 380 fleet in the distance future with no airbus order in sight for now.
I don’t see the current A380 operation route network changing too much in the next 2 decades with plenty more A380s to be delivered and 100 here already to be utilised.

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Old 17th Nov 2017, 07:06
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Humble SLF here who like most people who are passengers actually really like your A380 - (in fact with you today pm ex Man) . I am lucky to fly upstairs and have to say that it is one of my favourite aeroplanes, and I like your Bar area as compared with other 380,s I have flown on with other carriers. The 777 like 787 is another ali tube same as 330 / 350 so not really that different. I will be sad when the 380 goes as it will mean the accountants have won another round in the race to the bottom.


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Old 17th Nov 2017, 09:29
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Originally Posted by Mr Mac
Humble SLF here who like most people who are passengers actually really like your A380 - (in fact with you today pm ex Man) . I am lucky to fly upstairs and have to say that it is one of my favourite aeroplanes, and I like your Bar area as compared with other 380,s I have flown on with other carriers. The 777 like 787 is another ali tube same as 330 / 350 so not really that different. I will be sad when the 380 goes as it will mean the accountants have won another round in the race to the bottom.


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while none of us as crew are particularly fond of the bean counters, they do see the bottom line, and thats what keeps airplanes flying at the end of the day...as crew and pax we all like the biggest and best, but for the bean counters, biggest isnt always the best..
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Old 17th Nov 2017, 21:35
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As reported in Flight International 19 September, Teal Group’s Richard Aboulafia had this to say about the A380:
..he described it as “born to die”.
The final delivery will take place by 2020 “with unpleasant losses all around”.
“Launched with a hideous mix of hubris, shoddy market analysis, nationalism and simple wishful thinking, the A380 was destined for a short, painful life”.
“This has been a learning experience, albeit one for people who should have known better from the start. When launching a new jet, it’s important to survey the market trends, regulatory changes, likely technological developments, and customer preferences. None of that was done here”.

Oh, and it sure is an ugly brute too.
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Old 18th Nov 2017, 04:22
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Well as nice as the 380 is upstairs.... if the a/c will result in heavy losses then I don't care how nice it is. The bean counters are right, twin engine a/c with fewer seats are more economical and at the end of the day that's how airlines stay in business.

I hope FZ takes over some of the short-mid haul routes. There are a few that aren't very well suited to the 777
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Old 18th Nov 2017, 10:35
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Some route done by FZ some by 787. Problem between now and the move to DWC @2025+ is peak arrival plus pax numbers. Phase in of 779 might see some of the lighter 380 routes . Maybe the fat lady is warming up her voice!
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Old 18th Nov 2017, 19:59
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I believe ek is adding 98 pax in y on the new a380 ?
Anyone can confirm this ?
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