Mad Middle East Pilots
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Also, hows the atmosphere between colleagues in the flight deck I was in an immigration line a while ago with some Emirates Pilots in front of us. Neither one of them would acknowledge us pilots from another airline after we greeted them. No reply. Is this common? It was two captains and an FO. The FO nodded but looked scared. Made me a bit worried
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Originally Posted by Black Pudding
Might of been a local EK pilot or couple of local EK pilots who are not wanting to be seen talking to a Qatari crew due to the pathetic current situation in the region.
Besides, I don't think any of us give a monkey's regarding the politics between Qatar and everywhere else!
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Until I hear the facts from the inside
As for the non-response from the EK pilots, more likely than not that 99% of the available brain function was dedicated to remaining upright after a ULR so there was nothing left for hearing...
I have had times where someone was standing in front of me speaking to me and I did not see/hear them I was so damn tired... in other words... the F word that the bouncy castle loves to pretend doesn't exist.
Go do 100+ hours a month then see how you do after a ULR flight... it's not pretty
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That is unlikely to ever happen. All you get from the inside is company spin. Then from the employees you get their version. Somewhere in between is the truth, but it is usually closer to what the staff say than the company...
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I just comply with my roster and go home to live my life... i don't care about Pilot's talk, what or how they think, gossip and complaints all the time about the same BS... Do the same! Do your job and go home to live your life, make new friends, find some beautiful girls around, do some sports, have some fun, there's life outside aviation, i swear! I can't deal with so weak and limited talk and mentality ...
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I'm sorry guys, but it isn't the Companie's reponsibility to please you, to make you happy and bring some inner light and positivity for your ****ty life. This is not your daddy's company, this is a job like any other and not a time for fun and celebration, and that's why sometimes or often it's boring: a job is a job everywhere, any sector, that's why it's called "job" and not "party". You choosed your profession and career, nobody forced you to become a pilot right? You should know all these stuffs, how does commercial aviation and airline jobs works for Pilot's BEFORE you decided to become one... this talk all the time, to come here to complaint about how does things on EK works and how tough it is for you to cope with that is so infantile. Again: it isn't Emirates responsibility to make you happy, to bring some light for you life and to please you. It is your job, your homework to be happy with what you have in your hands and don't bother people around you with your insatisfaction and negativity. *I'm not a "local", i'm an expat being treated here better than in my homecountry.
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@salamelecon
How much is EK paying you to spread the positivity around, it must be a daytime job for you.
I think EK is recognizing the fact that most people do research the company they are interested in, and this is one of the feedback forums we as employees use to express our thoughts.
So I think EK is trying to influence the chats here, with 'somebody' who is maybe hired to bring the positivity back and hopefully influences the possible new hires' ideas about the big step to join.
Let us ventilate our thoughts, its pretty much the only place were we can do it, since the lack of a crew room ...
Its great that yr happy, but dont choke every thread with it.
We already have Harry who is pointing out the facts, most of the time, and who helps us seeing things from different angles. 😎
How much is EK paying you to spread the positivity around, it must be a daytime job for you.
I think EK is recognizing the fact that most people do research the company they are interested in, and this is one of the feedback forums we as employees use to express our thoughts.
So I think EK is trying to influence the chats here, with 'somebody' who is maybe hired to bring the positivity back and hopefully influences the possible new hires' ideas about the big step to join.
Let us ventilate our thoughts, its pretty much the only place were we can do it, since the lack of a crew room ...
Its great that yr happy, but dont choke every thread with it.
We already have Harry who is pointing out the facts, most of the time, and who helps us seeing things from different angles. 😎
salamalecom
Emirates wants to be the 'Employer of Choice' and the greatest airline in the world.
And yet they treat their employees like children. They haven't learnt from the infamous survey where employees left Management with no room for doubt exactly how far removed they are from being an Employer of Choice.
If they were a mature company, something as pathetic as a Warning Letter wouldn't exist. They have zero understanding of employee engagement, nor how to treat employees. The fact that you somehow think a Warning Letter is a normal thing shows just how green you are to a workforce, or what a management muppet you are.
Fascinating that you talk 'positivity.' Exactly the line Management has been trying to spin in recent forums. "Quick everyone, think positively and all will be good."
Completely and totally removed from reality.
Emirates wants to be the 'Employer of Choice' and the greatest airline in the world.
And yet they treat their employees like children. They haven't learnt from the infamous survey where employees left Management with no room for doubt exactly how far removed they are from being an Employer of Choice.
If they were a mature company, something as pathetic as a Warning Letter wouldn't exist. They have zero understanding of employee engagement, nor how to treat employees. The fact that you somehow think a Warning Letter is a normal thing shows just how green you are to a workforce, or what a management muppet you are.
Fascinating that you talk 'positivity.' Exactly the line Management has been trying to spin in recent forums. "Quick everyone, think positively and all will be good."
Completely and totally removed from reality.
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What a Management A$$hole. It is thinking and attitudes like his that should give pause to anyone wanting to join this outfit and should give purpose to everyone currently at EK to get the hell out as quickly as you can.
Yes this is how management thinks and it is a cancer.
Yes this is how management thinks and it is a cancer.
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Wow Saleem, you must be going for a record...how to annoy all your colleagues in one go.
I’m guessing you grew up in an autocratic environment, one that was rich with tradition but a little short on modern thinking, let me clue you up bud.
The way the ME works will last until the oil runs out, and then it’ll be back to goat or camel herding unless that can be replaced with more modern and viable alternatives. Fortunately Dubai is well on its way, however there exists a significant percentage of locals and local thinkers who seem to think it’s still the Middle Ages.
The upshot of it not being the Middle Ages is that talent can move and if you don’t offer adequate incentives it does just that, consequently EK is in a downward spiral as talent and experience leaves and isn’t being replaced with equally talented, experienced or skilled personal. The end result will be more broken aeroplanes, lost lives and of course the destruction of a viable and profitable business.
In essence Saleem people such as yourself will be responsible for all of this due in no small part to your unenlightened and rather One dimensional view of employee rights and empowerment, suffice to say a business built on the talents and efforts of expats will wither and die when those expats ply their trade somewhere else that appreciates their effort and values their input more.
Keep up the ignorance, it suits you.
The Irish Village was so good last night, I might head back again tonight, see you there!
I’m guessing you grew up in an autocratic environment, one that was rich with tradition but a little short on modern thinking, let me clue you up bud.
The way the ME works will last until the oil runs out, and then it’ll be back to goat or camel herding unless that can be replaced with more modern and viable alternatives. Fortunately Dubai is well on its way, however there exists a significant percentage of locals and local thinkers who seem to think it’s still the Middle Ages.
The upshot of it not being the Middle Ages is that talent can move and if you don’t offer adequate incentives it does just that, consequently EK is in a downward spiral as talent and experience leaves and isn’t being replaced with equally talented, experienced or skilled personal. The end result will be more broken aeroplanes, lost lives and of course the destruction of a viable and profitable business.
In essence Saleem people such as yourself will be responsible for all of this due in no small part to your unenlightened and rather One dimensional view of employee rights and empowerment, suffice to say a business built on the talents and efforts of expats will wither and die when those expats ply their trade somewhere else that appreciates their effort and values their input more.
Keep up the ignorance, it suits you.
The Irish Village was so good last night, I might head back again tonight, see you there!
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I'm sorry guys, but it isn't the Companie's reponsibility to please you, to make you happy and bring some inner light and positivity for your ****ty life. This is not your daddy's company, this is a job like any other and not a time for fun and celebration, and that's why sometimes or often it's boring: a job is a job everywhere, any sector, that's why it's called "job" and not "party". You choosed your profession and career, nobody forced you to become a pilot right? You should know all these stuffs, how does commercial aviation and airline jobs works for Pilot's BEFORE you decided to become one... this talk all the time, to come here to complaint about how does things on EK works and how tough it is for you to cope with that is so infantile. Again: it isn't Emirates responsibility to make you happy, to bring some light for you life and to please you. It is your job, your homework to be happy with what you have in your hands and don't bother people around you with your insatisfaction and negativity. *I'm not a "local", i'm an expat being treated here better than in my homecountry.
