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Old 6th Jul 2017, 12:02
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Unions

Every single job in US has unions, even the waiters and believe me, they are very powerful and less dirty than other ones.

Originally Posted by mmorel
Only pilot has union in United states. What do you want to say about other jobs in united states? Like software engineers ? They do not have any unions and they fired them without giving them any notice because they find cheaper labour from india to replace them. Trust me 3 big airlines in united states do not like unions and maybe in future there won't be unions for Pilots in United States . Just look at other industries and you will find out.
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Facebook, Google, Sprint, T-mobile and ... do not have unions. They fire or lay off people without any warnings. Just check the news. They bring new graduate and ask them to learn everything from seniors before asking them to leave the company. it's happening every day in US.

here is the link:
https://techcrunch.com/2013/07/29/wh...s-in-2-charts/
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Every single job in US has unions, even the waiters and believe me, they are very powerful and less dirty than other ones.
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Old 6th Jul 2017, 14:29
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Apart from that cheesy video Delta produced working for Delta is far and above better than working for EK. No comparison. In fact I don't know what one can compare between the two Airlines.
Subsidies, accounting tricks, lease backs, free trade and cheesy videos are not really our department as pilots. Pilot to pilot who would want to fly for Emirates?The work hours, the amount of work and the pay are all detrimental to a pilots Quality of Life. Get out of the sand if you know what is good for you and your family.
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Old 6th Jul 2017, 16:21
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Originally Posted by Neptune Spear
Apart from that cheesy video Delta produced working for Delta is far and above better than working for EK. No comparison. In fact I don't know what one can compare between the two Airlines.
Subsidies, accounting tricks, lease backs, free trade and cheesy videos are not really our department as pilots. Pilot to pilot who would want to fly for Emirates?The work hours, the amount of work and the pay are all detrimental to a pilots Quality of Life. Get out of the sand if you know what is good for you and your family.
Neptune of all the members on here who have lived both - your posts have always been objective, thoughtful and considerate.

I can't argue with your logic or argument - purely the video.
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Old 7th Jul 2017, 00:41
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Originally Posted by Bidule
Just to add to other replies already posted.
If your statement would be correct, there would be a very low number of loans! By the way, should it be correct, how do you explain September 2008 finance crisis and all these large, well managed US banks going burst?
So you want me to explain the financial crisis?? While I would not call myself an expert it so happens I have studied the subject some...however I'm not sure pages of posts on that subject would work out well here....

I will say this, there were major lapses in regulation, policy, and corporate governance that all contributed to the meltdown. In my opinion, many of fundamental problems remain, especially in the area of corporate governance. Making decisions based on short term bonuses often at the expense of long-term performance remains huge problem in my opinion. In fact, this could even apply to the conversation about the ME3 as some of the recent reports make one wonder.... several of the threads about EK back this up.
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Old 7th Jul 2017, 01:47
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Originally Posted by Jack330
Every single job in US has unions, even the waiters and believe me, they are very powerful and less dirty than other ones.
Union jobs are declining in the USA. Pilots are among the few groups which are still unionized, fortunately.
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Originally Posted by UAL777
Union jobs are declining in the USA.
Yep...

“The union membership rate--the percent of wage and salary workers who were members of
unions--was 10.7 percent in 2016, down 0.4 percentage point from 2015, the U.S. Bureau
of Labor Statistics reported today. The number of wage and salary workers belonging to
unions, at 14.6 million in 2016, declined by 240,000 from 2015. In 1983, the first
year for which comparable union data are available, the union membership rate was
20.1 percent, and there were 17.7 million union workers.“



https://www.bls.gov/news.release/union2.nr0.htm
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Old 8th Jul 2017, 17:56
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Originally Posted by Airmann
The US and Europe have been subsidizing their farmers from years in order to stop their agriculture business more or less disappearing in the face of cheaper imports. This is also an illegal government subsidy. Has been argued as such for decades by third world countries. Amounts to around 25 Billion a year.

Last time I flew one of those middle East shiny jets they were owned by offshore leasing companies.
And these illegal agricultural subsidies have driven third world farmers to the wall.
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Originally Posted by QCM
This is a general attitude in this part of the world!
When they wanted to attack Vietnam they invented the Gulf of Tonkin fake story...then they invented Saddam Hussein massive destruction weapons to attack Irak...these guys keep lying to the face of the world considered as their own business field,supported by yellow wigged "president"
Joseph Goebbels would have been proud of this video.
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Originally Posted by Thaihawk
Joseph Goebbels would have been proud of this video.
5th page of the thread, yep, seems about right. All the discussion was missing was a little Reductio ad Goebbelum. Good work, Thaihawk.

Godwin's Law
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Originally Posted by Thaihawk
Joseph Goebbels would have been proud of this video.
C'mon...say how you really feel, were all adults here...

How does it go again? Is it " Hi Himmel? "High Hitlist"? " ...something like that.

Since you're a master on what the Nazi's seem to like, please elaborate further....or is that fürher?
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Originally Posted by The Outlaw
C'mon...say how you really feel, were all adults here...

How does it go again? Is it " Hi Himmel? "High Hitlist"? " ...something like that.

Since you're a master on what the Nazi's seem to like, please elaborate further....or is that fürher?
Maybe a bit over the top, but certainly worthy of the spin put out by the British Labour party spin doctors under Alister Campbell, insomuch that the truth was somewhat stretched. And thay's putting it diplomatically.
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while a joke when you think of how AA, DL ,UA ,CO, NW, and other US carriers cheated the system with their chapter 11 filings . 10's of thousands of airline employees and creditors where taken to the cleaners.
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Originally Posted by The Outlaw
I'd take the granny with a brain over the 22 year old without.

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pervert

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Originally Posted by Marlon Brando
pervert

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As opposed to children? I won't even dignify that one with comment.

However removable teeth does have benefits....
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Originally Posted by The Outlaw

However removable teeth does have benefits....

definitly a pervert !
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Originally Posted by rmcdonal
Most of the 22 YO FAs I have spoken with speak 2-3 languages and have a degree. They are not the ditsy blondes you imagine, and are far more capable than given credit for on this site.
"Most" of those 22-year olds are multi-lingual and educated...right. Oh brother. Yes, they're all mensa members and Phd's. Hence, they chose "flight attendant" as their profession.

Sure, there are some very accomplished cabin crew amongst the 20,000+...I should know, I married one with a degree...in medicine. But get real. It's bs to claim that they're not outliers. Most are far better at interacting with a smartphone than a person. 32 is the new 22, and 22 is more like about 12.

Not picking on the females, btw, the males of the species are probably worse.
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Marlon,

15 will get you 20, keep that in mind when you go on your next date!

Daddy might have a shotgun too.
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Originally Posted by rmcdonal
Most of the 22 YO FAs I have spoken with speak 2-3 languages and have a degree. They are not the ditsy blondes you imagine, and are far more capable than given credit for on this site.
HA HA HA...Yes of course I talked to them as well once. There was a few doctors, lawyers and rocket scientists who went to school to study 8+ years and decided that being cabin crew at EK was a better vocation! BIG RED FLAG !
I'm not saying they are all uneducated either but many come with "issues" and "baggage", so are just full of sh..

PS: BS can mean a few different things.


For your benefit:

BS |ˌbēˈes|
abbreviation

1 US Bachelor of Science.
2 balance sheet.
3 Blessed Sacrament.
4 North American vulgar slang used as a euphemism for “bull****.”
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Originally Posted by The Outlaw
decided that being cabin crew at EK was a better vocation! BIG RED FLAG !
For a lot of them its a paid way of seeing the world. Notwithstanding the punishing rosters but if you're young then why not for three years?

Funnily enough many pilots here are 'just so full of sh..' too to use your own phrase!
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